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Apple and Google must allow other in-app payment systems, Korean law declares

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Re: Apple and Google must allow other in-app payment systems, Korean law declares

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post #73

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> If they wanted to head this off all they had to do was pay a reasonable amount of tax in the country where the revenue was generated Like a donation? Or are these companies evading tax laws?

I think we can all agree that transfer pricing and the Double Irish Dutch sandwich were not intended to be used in the way they have been by modern multinationals.

This seems to have ended: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-57368247

Re: Apple and Google must allow other in-app payment systems, Korean law declares

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post #143

Very good. South Korea is maybe less corrupt than most EU countries after all...

Maybe, or perhaps the government was "persuaded" by Korean payment companies? Still, sounds like a net win.

Yes, Samsung or some other giant probably played a role there.

But this is long overdue, Apple and Google should have never been allowed to take that much power in the first place.

Re: Apple and Google must allow other in-app payment systems, Korean law declares

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post #155

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If your customers prefer to use a payment processor that costs you 3% instead of Apple's 15%/30%, then why wouldn't you support that payment processor? You gain more revenue and honor your customers' preferences at the same time.

Because supporting payment processors is extra work(which is requires technical and non technical skills) that can go into development, that's why. It is something that I would prefer to delegate, pay the due and forget about it. What's so hard to understand that? Have you ever created a product and made money from it?

By migrating from Apple's 30% fee to a payment processor that charges only 3%, your revenue would increase by 38.6%. The only way that additional revenue would not make up for your development cost is if your revenue were low in the first place. There are plenty of developers who would gladly integrate another payment API for the additional revenue.

Re: Apple and Google must allow other in-app payment systems, Korean law declares

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post #13

When the EU does the same things will turn for real.

and they can, because there's not a single EU company with an app store to harm. App stores are designed for profit, not simply for our convenience. Imagine a government forcing AirBnb to let people pay hand to hand to the owner of the apartment. It's the same issue, right?

If AirBnb and X capture market in an duopoly, maybe govt. will have to and should intervene.

Re: Apple and Google must allow other in-app payment systems, Korean law declares

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post #151

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Do you have know-how on distributing apps and getting paid for? This sounds to me like ideological talk. "We wouldn't need to spend money on cleaning staff if everyone clean their door front." Yeah, sure.

I do, and your arguments in this thread don't convince me at all. Is there something incorrect in my comment? Developers went from having one payment processor that charges 15%/30% to many payment processors that can charge as little as under 3%. Revenue-wise, there is no downside to having these additional options.

Where can I buy your stuff?

I don't know if your money works differently from mine but for me I get to own the difference between Cost and Revenue. Revenue increase is not good if the cost increase is higher. I doubt that the revenue will increase, the costs will certainly.

The costs consist of my time and the payments I make to build and distribute my stuff. This will reduce the costs that I pay to Apple but will increase the development and legal burden.

Re: Apple and Google must allow other in-app payment systems, Korean law declares

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post #13

When the EU does the same things will turn for real.

and they can, because there's not a single EU company with an app store to harm. App stores are designed for profit, not simply for our convenience. Imagine a government forcing AirBnb to let people pay hand to hand to the owner of the apartment. It's the same issue, right?

There is a big difference between computing devices and marketplace services.

Re: Apple and Google must allow other in-app payment systems, Korean law declares

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post #10

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I imagine that this would only apply to users in South Korea.

The text mentions developers, not just users... I assume (by understanding the published text) they'd (Korean officials) want to target any users of apps published by Korean developers, no matter the location.

Korean law cannot reach into sales performed in another country—at least not without some fairly tenuous moves.

Apple's phone market share in South Korea is a moderately healthy 22% given the presence of strong domestic and regional brands, but I've no doubt Apple would sooner give up on South Korea altogether than have a weird law tying their hands globally.

Re: Apple and Google must allow other in-app payment systems, Korean law declares

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

and they can, because there's not a single EU company with an app store to harm. App stores are designed for profit, not simply for our convenience. Imagine a government forcing AirBnb to let people pay hand to hand to the owner of the apartment. It's the same issue, right?

If AirBnb and X capture market in an duopoly, maybe govt. will have to and should intervene.

They wouldn't need to, because guests and hosts are welcome to use other platforms that exist.

Android OR iOS is an exact duopoly.

Re: Apple and Google must allow other in-app payment systems, Korean law declares

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post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because supporting payment processors is extra work(which is requires technical and non technical skills) that can go into development, that's why. It is something that I would prefer to delegate, pay the due and forget about it. What's so hard to understand that? Have you ever created a product and made money from it?

By migrating from Apple's 30% fee to a payment processor that charges only 3%, your revenue would increase by 38.6%. The only way that additional revenue would not make up for your development cost is if your revenue were low in the first place. There are plenty of developers who would gladly integrate another payment API for the additional revenue.

My revenue wouldn't necessarily increase(unless maybe price reduction drives the sales enough), my costs due to Apple's commission will decrees and my development and legal costs will increase.
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