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Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by MeinBlutIstBlau »

pleb_nz wrote: post #74

8m not sure how his podcasts were distributed previously, but I would have thought a more multiplatform approach would work better long term. A lot of people don't have Spotify, I'm one of those, for the same price as Spotify I can get YouTube premium for me and the extended family, kill all ads, allow downloads and access to a decent music streaming catalog. Last time I checked the prices were not to dissimilar.

It did. Joe even said he didn't care about itunes ratings back in the day. He just wanted people to listen to it in anyway they liked.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by asdff »

tyleo wrote: post #91
xutopia wrote: post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

This has been my experience as well. Another commenter mentioned this but I also feel like guests have been less interesting since the move to Austin. I used to be a daily listener now I feel like it can be months between interesting episodes.

Easier to find someone available to drive to a studio in LA than to have them fly out of LAX to Austin.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by pelasaco »

duxup wrote: post #62
ceejayoz wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify didn't bring over the old episodes with people like Alex Jones, Gavin McInnes, and Milo Yiannopoulos. > “There were a few episodes they didn’t want on their platform,” Rogan said, per DMN. “And I was like, ‘OK, I don’t care.'” https://www.thewrap.com/spotify-deletes-joe-rogan-podcast-ep...

Kinda curious, do fans .. .care about that? I guess some do but I don't think I ever listen to past podcasts that I've already listened to...

I for example like to hear everything from the beginning of the pandemics.. it is quite interesting to see now how wrong/right the experts were.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by edge17 »

xutopia wrote: post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

If anyone wants a datapoint, I stop listening to podcasts once they go to Spotify. I use Overcast, and generally don't have the wherewithal to chase content. I'm guessing there are more like me. I was an infrequent listener to Joe Rogan, but now I am not a listener at all (because it moved to Spotify).

Also, there seems to be a lot of judgement of the kind of person Joe Rogan is (conspiracy, etc) in the comments. I have never once listened to Joe Rogan to listen to Joe Rogan. The fact of the matter is he gets fantastic guests doing long form conversations. I only ever showed up for the guests. Generally also the case for many other podcasts, Lex Friedman, Tim Ferris, etc.... the value they bring is more the guests they attract and the space they create for the guest.

I guess it would be interesting to deep fake the voice of the host and see how many people actually cared about the host.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by [deleted] »

indy wrote: post #81
bb123 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does memoryholing mean?

Some episodes are no longer available, as if Spotify wants everyone to forget that they even exist. Episodes featuring Milo Yiannopoulos, Alex Jones etc. In other words, guests that offend the progressive attitudes of Silicon Valley

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by Zelphyr »

Money aside, I personally feel the Spotify deal was terrible for Rogan. He does more for Spotify than they do for him. Not least of which because Spotify, while pretty great for music, is terrible as a podcast player.

And, yeah, he has gone off the deep end since the Spotify deal. Somebody dumping a giant basket of cash on your doorstep probably does the ego no favors.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by christoph »

ganoushoreilly wrote: post #25
tomjakubowski wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Spotify the only source of revenue from his podcast? I don't listen to JRE, but this thread suggests he's still running third-party ads on the show. Presumably then he's still getting some portion of that $30M/year on top of what Spotify pays him. > Spotify doesn’t play or include ads that interrupt the listening experience of Premium subscribers. However, some podcast creators may include third-party advertising,…

Not only does he run the ads (though I suspect spotify reaps those benefits), they're randomly inserting them in the podcast now and it's annoying. Sometimes it's mid sentence. Annoying to both pay for spotify and get hammered with ads. Granted I pay for the music, but it's still annoying as all.

When this happened to me I assumed Spotify had become logged out of my account somehow. Nope, they’re injecting adverts randomly into paying customers podcasts. I cancelled Spotify that moment. I never really agreed with their attempted land grab on podcasts, this, however, I felt had really crossed a line. There are plenty of other podcasts I listen to, some without ads, supported only by Patreon, etc. so the money I spent on Spotify will get redistributed to them.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by MeinBlutIstBlau »

Milolol wrote: post #133
indy wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some episodes are no longer available, as if Spotify wants everyone to forget that they even exist. Episodes featuring Milo Yiannopoulos, Alex Jones etc. In other words, guests that offend the progressive attitudes of Silicon Valley

Milo Yiannopoulos is a self-proclaimed white supremacist, that offends more than "the progressive attitudes of Silicon Valley," it offends everyone that's not a white supremacist. Alex Jones testified to being a performance artist and hosts a talk show purely to hawk merchandise. Does that really fit the mold of a thought-provoking podcast like Rogan's?

He's not white supremacists. He openly says he prefers black men and has on several podcasts. He's just not a typical gay man so he gets villified.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by LatteLazy »

Anyone know any good alternatives?

I listen to the Rachman Review on geo-politics and China Talk. But i dont think anyone else has as wide a range as Joe. Tim Ferris is ok but he's way more niche.

https://www.ft.com/rachman-review

https://chinatalkshow.libsyn.com/rss

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