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Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by EmpirePhoenix »

krisoft wrote: post #156
411111111111111 wrote: post #135

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Their carry weight is absolute shit and ferrying over 10 doses isn't really worthwhile

There is this confusion over the word “drone”. What you say is absolutely true about quadrocopters and octocopters. It is much less true about fixed wing drones. You don’t have to go all the way to a Global Hawk to get reasonable carrying capacity. Even hobby sized stuff could be used for this reasonably well. Parts are easy to acquire, they are easy to conceal, you can launch them with a catapult like setup, they ca…

If your target country has a large coast, there are submarine drones already https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco-submarine

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by bserge »

rualca wrote: post #148
cryptonector wrote: post #112

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Why even use drug mules if you can just drone everything over the border?

> Why even use drug mules if you can just drone everything over the border? A few weeks ago there was a news article on how drug cartels were using cheap Chinese VTOL drones to smuggle drugs across the Mediterranean between Morocco and Spain. https://english.elpais.com/spain/2021-07-15/spanish-police-s...

Nice machine, but no way in hell it costs that much to build, the manufacturer is making a killing lol

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Post by rualca »

White_Wolf wrote: post #160
411111111111111 wrote: post #135

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Their carry weight is absolute shit and ferrying over 10 doses isn't really worthwhile

Check out pro broadcasting drones. They can carry 3-5kg cameras with power packs. Some go as far as 1h fly time. They are expensive as hell though.

I'm sure the premium charged by broadcasting drone sellers has more to do with stabilizing drones even during manoeuvering than it has to do with maximizing payload and range. Drones used in broadcasting can do pit stops pretty much at will.

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Post by tinco »

White_Wolf wrote: post #160
411111111111111 wrote: post #135

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Their carry weight is absolute shit and ferrying over 10 doses isn't really worthwhile

Check out pro broadcasting drones. They can carry 3-5kg cameras with power packs. Some go as far as 1h fly time. They are expensive as hell though.

My company owns one, the same make as the one that shot the dragon battle scene in game of thrones. It's a single rotor, and you're right on with the specs. It's not super expensive though, about as expensive as a high end luxury car. Definitely out of range of most consumers, but not crazy for a small business to have. You also need a small team to operate it, and because of its weight there's more aviation regulation applicable, at least here in Europe.

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Post by himinlomax »

phire wrote: post #132
SEJeff wrote: post #34

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Confirmed by a tower? The tower's tracked it with radar. That's how they called out the height. There would be logs.

Most radar can't tell the height of an object unless it has a transponder reporting it's altitude.

It's not necessarily that they can't, it's that the precision in altitude is very poor unless the target is close to the radar. This happened with MH370, the data released in the investigation shows altitude values varying wildly by 10000 feet in a short time. Of course conspiracy theorists picked up on that as proof of lizard people involvement.

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Post by hcurtiss »

yardie wrote: post #62
ghaff wrote: post #36

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Clearly people have some rights to the space over their property. Case law isn't well established but, outside of airport landing rights, the consensus seems to be something like 400 feet which is in general uncontrolled airspace. https://aerocorner.com/blog/drone-over-private-property/ I probably won't shoot down a delivery drone though I may file a complaint. But if a drone starts poking around at low altitude over…

Property rights in the US are particularly funny. You don’t own as much as you think you do. The land deed you have is a 2D plot of land. There are also mineral rights, air rights, and raparian rights. That last one is the rights to collect water in your land. Most likely there is a water management authority who owns the rain water in your property. Unless your deed specifically states you own mineral rights a minin…

In every jurisdiction I’m aware of minerals run with the land absent specific conveyance/reservation severing the estate.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by SevenSigs »

411111111111111 wrote: post #135
cryptonector wrote: post #112

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Why even use drug mules if you can just drone everything over the border?

Their carry weight is absolute shit and ferrying over 10 doses isn't really worthwhile

That's why they like Fentanyl, Carfentanyl, etc... a lethal dose weight almost nothing.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by RobertoG »

If you are interested in this kind of thing, you could like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1qiZ_L8wX4

with some context:

https://www.openminds.tv/leaked-ufo-video-captured-by-homela...

https://www.ufo-timeline.com/aguadilla-puerto-rico-uap/

Probably a bird, but interesting anyway.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by tailius »

So how do they know it was a drone? Sounds like textbook, literal UFO if they're unsure.

In previous discussions about terrestrial origins, either it's a hobbyist, an industry professional, a criminal, a terrorist, black ops domestic military, or a foreign state actor. I don't see 70+ minute flights without the resources of a state actor, foreign or domestic.

Another possibility is such stories are concocted to throw shade on drones to legitimize FAA's overreach and/or police-industrial complex wants to sell new toys to counter whatever this supposedly was.

Re: Police helicopter's 100mph chase with 'super sophisticated' drone near Tucson

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Post by jfk13 »

leephillips wrote: post #78
manwe150 wrote: post #65

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I thought (more relevantly) there were also laws about shooting without a backdrop to catch stray bullets, since this sounds like a densely populated area, also perhaps shooting towards people: bullets that go up, come down again somewhere else at nearly the same speed.

No, they come down at their terminal velocity, which is far slower. Could give you a bump on the head, though.

They can still kill you.

https://blogs.bcm.edu/2019/12/31/what-goes-up-must-come-down...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5912041/

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