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I've seen people on 4chan /g/ include the M, but it being 4chan, they rearrange the acronym into something offensive that I shan't repeat.
Can we get a hint?
It's the one higher up this comment thread.
Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome
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#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've seen "FAGMAN" in a couple places. It really reflects the general sentiment towards those companies as well.
When I'm on E2EE I only use that acronym. And I've worked for one of the companies and had IP stolen by two others. Maybe that's why...
Remember: E2EE on phones is not secret.
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#163The title is somewhat misleading, because it's talking about two different types of imposter. The "imposter" of "imposter syndrome" believes others didn't figure what they really are, that they're flawed, underskilled, will fail, etc. ; and that makes you somewhat of a fraud, i.e. an imposter, because they're secretly not the skilled person that was hired. The "actual imposter" from the "imposter syndrome" would be s…
Maybe he did have imposter syndrome too? He probably went home at night thinking "Why is this con taking so long to pull-off? I'm terrible at this, what do all my conman buddies really think of me?!"
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#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think as of late FAAMG is more popular or appropriate than FAANG, but I mean, who knows. According to Wikipedia at least https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Tech Edit: Not popular maybe, but appropriate still.
I always thought it was more appropriate for most purposes. But on HN, perhaps the most common purpose is discussing ludicrous total comp. And, at least when I left in 2010, Microsoft most certainly did not offer that. I heard that they raised pay across the board shortly after I left, but considering where they started, I’d be shocked if it put them on par with FAANG. Anybody know?
levels.fyi has MSFT at ~75% of GAAF salaries for equal positions (N is apparently exclusively Seniors getting a cool half mil in pure salary and nothing else? Not sure how accurate that is...)
That being said, it's hard to compare directly. I know many M folks, and some F, G, A and A folks. The M folks probably work at most 75% of the hours of the others. I for one would much rather work a standard 9-5 and make a lot than work 996 (not that extreme, but kinda) and make downright absurd amounts...
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#165A lot of the discussion here is treating impostor syndrome and qualifications as binary: You're either qualified or not. And your evaluation of your skills is either above your actual skills or not. But it's more nuanced than that. I'm a Principal Engineer at a FAAMNG company. I have impostor syndrome all the time. Why? Because I measure myself against 1) role models that are ahead of me in many ways - I've always do…
I think I agree with your description. I'm currently sitting on three job offers - I originally thought it would be easy to choose, but I find myself absolutely paralyzed right now with an inability to make a decision on any of them because I feel as though I will be expected to know more than I think I know, or to perform at a level beyond what I feel comfortable performing at. I've had a lot of great feedback from…
It's your job in interviews to accurately describe your abilities and talents. It's the company's job to determine if that's the right fit for them.
If they sent you an offer, I'd just assume I don't have a clear enough picture on what they will expect of me and when, and just trust that they did their due diligence in my evaluation.
Of course, if it doesn't work out, you had three offers so you'll likely be able to get a new job no problem.
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#166I disagree with this article and most things I read about imposter syndrome. There's usually some good advice in there about self care. But, I think it ends up missing the mark because it leaves out half the story: It is healthy and normal to question if you're over-representing yourself. A constant feeling of "Am I as good as people think and I say?" is only imposter syndrome if the answer is yes . Otherwise, yeah,…
The key part of impostor syndrome is that you think you're bad at something, but somehow nobody else can tell. You keep getting compliments for the thing you're worried about. If you think you're bad at coding, and people can tell right away in a short coding interview, then you're not an impostor, you're just bad at it. If you're coming in last in every race, then you're not an impostor, everyone knows you're bad. I…
To further your example, when the mentor gives the feedback that the programmer is _good_, they don't take it as evidence they are good, instead it is rationalized away. "The mentor only told me I was good because they didn't want to hurt my feelings, but of course she knows I'm really not," Or "The mentor only told me I was good because they don't really see how much time I spend googling things. Real Engineers should have their code jump from their heads like Athena from Zeus."
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#167glad we sorted this out conclusively and I can be sure I'm not an imposter forever now. wait a minute..
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#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it's a more accessible way of saying it.
I don't really agree. I find the long-winded version confusing, and as I am not sure if there is a gotcha somewhere in there, I have to read the whole thing and follow the whole argument. You don't necessarily have to use math symbols, but it really helps to be terse.
Pure solipsism.
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#169Growth usually means operating outside the confines of our previous experience to some extent.
Tech careers are, hopefully, about growing - yes using new technologies, but also trying out new roles like management, architecture, sales, building a company...
The more senior tech people get, the more they are doing outside the box they were initially hired in, until they are not doing that thing at all.
As a result, everyone is doing some percentage of things they have little experience or training in, while they try to backfill that experience and training. Often there isn't someone better at it around either - that's why they ended up doing it in the first place. As soon as they actually get good at it they are pulled and pushed onto the next step.
So, most people don't know what they are doing part of the time. I wouldn't want to label that imposter syndrome. We need to recognize our real limitations so we know what to learn and can control the risks.
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#170A lot of the discussion here is treating impostor syndrome and qualifications as binary: You're either qualified or not. And your evaluation of your skills is either above your actual skills or not. But it's more nuanced than that. I'm a Principal Engineer at a FAAMNG company. I have impostor syndrome all the time. Why? Because I measure myself against 1) role models that are ahead of me in many ways - I've always do…
I think I agree with your description. I'm currently sitting on three job offers - I originally thought it would be easy to choose, but I find myself absolutely paralyzed right now with an inability to make a decision on any of them because I feel as though I will be expected to know more than I think I know, or to perform at a level beyond what I feel comfortable performing at. I've had a lot of great feedback from…
Care less, stop comparing yourself.
And read this: https://stepsandleaps.wordpress.com/2017/10/17/feynmans-brea...