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TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by dmitriy_ko »

MisterTea wrote: post #57
nostromo wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s also much more positive. If I spend 20 minutes on TikTok I usually laugh and smile a few times. And regularly I’m impressed at human creativity. 20 minutes on Instagram or Facebook is usually either boring or leaves me comparing myself to others. 20 minutes on YouTube and I feel like I’ve watched 10 minutes of ads and 10 minutes of fluff. 20 minutes on Reddit and I hate the world.

Spending 20 minutes in any of those apps is 20 minutes you didn't do something productive. None of them are good for you.

I learned a lot from watching YouTube. I was able to complete many home improvement projects based on DIY videos. And learned about many different subjects: history, science, engineering. I probably learned more from YouTube than from books. I do have YouTube Premium subscription so I don't need to watch ads — makes a big difference.

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Post by godelski »

iamstupidsimple wrote: post #103
tablespoon wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As opposed to US based networks? There are important differences between being influenced by domestic actors, as part of a domestic political process, and being influenced by foreign actors. The latter is a far more serious threat to political independence. It's also pretty well documented that the PRC political authorities already use its domestic social networks in this way.

Both Facebook and TikTok are foreign actors in my country (and almost all of them).

I'm not sure how this is a counter to the above comment. Seems to still apply.

To add nuance, it's also not a binary problem. Is it influence from a country with closer values to you/your country or one further apart? Obviously your country is likely to be one end of the spectrum. I'd also say that US and China have very different cultural/political/economic views and considering a significant percentage of HN posters are American, this is why the specific comparison is frequently made (and a Dutch, for example, social network isn't really a world player right now).

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by moonchrome »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #69
nostromo wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s also much more positive. If I spend 20 minutes on TikTok I usually laugh and smile a few times. And regularly I’m impressed at human creativity. 20 minutes on Instagram or Facebook is usually either boring or leaves me comparing myself to others. 20 minutes on YouTube and I feel like I’ve watched 10 minutes of ads and 10 minutes of fluff. 20 minutes on Reddit and I hate the world.

How do you feel after 20 minutes on HN? Also, what subreddits/communmities are you in on Reddit that make you hate the world after 20 minutes? Are you on /r/popular or /r/all, or filtered down to your niche interests?

HN is still relatively balanced, but I see a lot more reddit style comments. Usually 20 min on HN I find nothing really new, tons of polarizing topics, discussions are decent but ultimately pointless, I really feel like I need to take a break.

Even niche reddit communities end up being full of newbies and self promotion spam. There are exceptions (/r/steroids comes to mind back when I was into that) but programming/tech subreddits are just noise.

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Post by corobo »

ceejayoz wrote: post #154
Drew_ wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not going to include the excerpt where a TikTok representative stated this was a bad practice and that they don't do those these things anymore?

I mean, that's about as credible as Facebook claiming to be turning over a new leaf on privacy, isn't it?

True or not it's still dishonest to exclude information that moots the point

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by godelski »

the-dude wrote: post #98
tablespoon wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As opposed to US based networks? There are important differences between being influenced by domestic actors, as part of a domestic political process, and being influenced by foreign actors. The latter is a far more serious threat to political independence. It's also pretty well documented that the PRC political authorities already use its domestic social networks in this way.

I am Dutch.

Which country has closer values to your country? US or China? Take the parents comment above and turn it from binary into a spectrum using this metric.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by SpaceManNabs »

cronix wrote: post #73
mrtksn wrote: post #25

I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

Another thing Tik Tok does is get rid of people who are obese, queer, or otherwise the target of harassment. Their stance is it's easier to get rid of the person being made fun of or limit who can see their videos rather than the 10k people harassing them. > According to Netzpolitik, the social media company instructed moderators to find users who are “susceptible to harassment or cyberbullying based on their physica…

This isn't really the case anymore. And I am someone that has been super critical of tiktok.

In fact, the most recent viral tiktok reposted on twitter yesterday was that dude in the white house, and it was getting reposted to both praise and criticize how queer-positive it was.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by alexfromapex »

mrtksn wrote: post #25

I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

Re: the China thing, is Instagram's Reels not a better alternative? Where you know your data is only being spied on by non-totalitarian regimes?

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by johny_walks »

cronix wrote: post #73
mrtksn wrote: post #25

I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

Another thing Tik Tok does is get rid of people who are obese, queer, or otherwise the target of harassment. Their stance is it's easier to get rid of the person being made fun of or limit who can see their videos rather than the 10k people harassing them. > According to Netzpolitik, the social media company instructed moderators to find users who are “susceptible to harassment or cyberbullying based on their physica…

Oh no. No more drama from mentally unstable people with weird pronouns.
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