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I closed a lot of browser tabs

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Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

#161

My solution is simple: When I feel like I have a lot of tabs [0], I close all of them. What happens when I close a tab I wanted open? I use browser history. Browser history is one of those things that I feel most people don’t use enough. It’s easy to search, it contains everything you visited, and (for the macOS/iOS ecosystem at least) is synced across devices. A quick cmd-Y and search makes for a very efficient user…

Note for the would-be-users of this approach: Chrome does not save your history infinitely, it only saves the last 90 days. I use an extension called Tabs Outliner to get around this problem.

Firefox, on the other hand, will save history until your storage runs out!

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

#162

Isn't this tab fatigue of every user not more a hint that bookmarking is broken? I mean, no matter how I bookmark a website, omnibar is absolutely useless in every browser when it comes to re-discovering your bookmarks via keywords that you remember. Sometimes I bookmark the same URL multiple times, because the Browser is too stupid to realize that a #generated-hashbang or a ?utm_source is a generated tracking parame…

100% agree. Bookmarks are cumbersome to make, hard to search, and just generally kind of annoying to work with. They kind of integrate into searching on the URL bar, but not very well. Many of them have tagging support, but the system feels like an afterthought.

And I'll add onto that, the way browser history works is also kind of annoying. I don't really trust that I'll be able to re-find a page I visited at a particular point in time. Visiting the same page twice doesn't create multiple history entries, it's hard to search by date. It feels really unreliable to use as a log.

There's a lot of room for innovation here, we're only just now starting to see browsers merge in tab grouping and containers, which I could have sworn Opera already supported ~10-15 years ago. I don't feel like we've spent enough time actually thinking about what different types of workflows people have for browsing the web and about how bookmarks/history/tabs could be adjusted to make those workflows easier.

It would take too long to list out all of the experiments that would be worth running (bookmarking screenshots or assets on a page, having bookmark "containers" for search, automatically categorizing bookmarks based on the domain or keywords inside the page, offline bookmarks that store the current state/DOM of the page, not just the URL, etc, etc). I think Edge was playing around with marking up pages using a stylus, but I don't know if that's still a thing now that they're based off of Chrome. And web annotations have been standardized for ages now. Still not integrated into any browser UIs that I'm aware of.

In my opinion bookmarks are one of the most underdeveloped parts of the modern browser, closely followed by history, and then by tabs themselves.

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

#163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The solution is trivial: Show related bookmarks at the top of Google Search results. It blows my mind that neither Google nor Pocket implemented this feature (natively and/or as a browser extension).

How would Google know your bookmarks?

I presume they'd be injected by the browser, but it also seems trivial for Google to display your bookmarks in search results if you sync them with your Google account.

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

#164
post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very much this. I've attempted (largely unsuccessfully) to try to use Pocket (also a Mozilla product) to address this. The problem with Pocket is that it gets worse the more you use it. From four years ago: https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/5x2sfx/pocket_... A couple of those issues have been addressed. There's now "find in page" on the Android app, and editing tags is very slightly improved. But overall,…

Pinboard.in seems okay though

That or Wallabag, both of which I've read quite a bit about but not tried.

Self-hosted Wallabag is ... on my to-do list.

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

#165
Why can't we just have:

about:tabs

... which would be a plain text listing of all the URLs of all the tabs you have open ?

You could just copy and paste it to a file or whatever. No fancy bookmarking scheme needed.

Instead, we need to dig several directories deep into /Library (or whatever, depending on your OS) and then use JSON tools to export ... I've already lost most people.

Go search for "how can I export tabs" or "how can I save tab urls" and you'll see thousands of people trying (usually in vain) to achieve this very, very simple thing.

EDIT: No, I don't want to install an extension to do this.

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

#166

I now can't decide whether to leave this tab open as a reminder for me to implement open tabs vs time graph. Rather than run a server on my machine, I'd prefer a tiny extension that sent an updated count to a service every time I open or close a tab. The easiest service to use would probably be a google sheet. I use https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/quick-tabs/jnjfein... to let me search through my tabs acros…

Cool extension, thanks! I added it to Brave, to only realize that Brave has something similar built-in. It looks like a "play" button in upper right corner, and can be activated by "CTRL-SHIFT-A", lets you search through tabs and switch to one quickly.

I was wondering what that "play" button was for about a month, lol. Unfortunate choice of icon on their part, IMO.

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

#167
post #165

Why can't we just have: about:tabs ... which would be a plain text listing of all the URLs of all the tabs you have open ? You could just copy and paste it to a file or whatever. No fancy bookmarking scheme needed. Instead, we need to dig several directories deep into /Library (or whatever, depending on your OS) and then use JSON tools to export ... I've already lost most people. Go search for "how can I export tabs"…

I get not wanting to install a third party extension just for this, but it would be a simple weekend project to write one to do this yourself (and install it locally to avoid the extension store shitshow)

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

#168

Isn't this tab fatigue of every user not more a hint that bookmarking is broken? I mean, no matter how I bookmark a website, omnibar is absolutely useless in every browser when it comes to re-discovering your bookmarks via keywords that you remember. Sometimes I bookmark the same URL multiple times, because the Browser is too stupid to realize that a #generated-hashbang or a ?utm_source is a generated tracking parame…

I believe it is in Google's and Microsoft's interest to keep bookmarks crippled. Every time you forgo using your bookmarks to lookup something, you instead use their search services, which indirectly translates to money in their pocket.

Bingo

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

#169

Isn't this tab fatigue of every user not more a hint that bookmarking is broken? I mean, no matter how I bookmark a website, omnibar is absolutely useless in every browser when it comes to re-discovering your bookmarks via keywords that you remember. Sometimes I bookmark the same URL multiple times, because the Browser is too stupid to realize that a #generated-hashbang or a ?utm_source is a generated tracking parame…

Random aside: I want to be able to put the same bookmark in multiple folders!

Re: I closed a lot of browser tabs

#170
I find Firefox's bookmark UI to be incredibly slow and clunky, not to mention so many things get in my way, like this "Bookmarks Toolbar" I cannot remove.

So, I often find myself resorting to opening the SQLite database Firefox uses to track places and doing queries against that, looking for time ranges and key words in the title or URL.

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