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Todo apps are meant for robots

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Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

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I've found that "Todo apps" are generally useless for me. The list gets too big, or it has limited support for priorities or dependencies or whatever, so I built my own. Its philosophy is built around the fact that I'm only ever going to be working on one major, todo-worthy task during a given minute. There's no reason to inundate me with dozens of things I could be working on when I'll only ever be doing one. And mo…

Sounds intriguing.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

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I love workflowy for keeping organised, because zooming in and out is fantastic for focus. Dragging tasks up and down lets me prioritize. Managing my todo list also organises my brain and lets me relax knowing I won't forget things. Working just fine for me and I'm not sure I would want a bunch of 'smart' features being all clippy on me.

zooming in and focusing on something is such a killer feature! i really couldnt imagine going back any regular todo app that didnt allow you to do that

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

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For a long time I've had a glimmer of an idea for a todo app that combined automatic carryover (and slow automatic pruning) of items from day to day coupled with a ever expanding set of selectable frontends to engage the user.

Example frontends would be things like "Wheel of Do" where you spin the wheel and it lands on an item, Castle Wolfenstien 2.5D shooter where a todo item is an enemy, a Star Trek style control panel, etc.

Like I said, its a glimmer of an idea but it handles the two things I have problems with in any todo app: an ever expanding backlog and getting bored with the UI.

Please build it someone, I don't have the time. :)

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

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Every ToDo app I've used has really just been one or more list with a smidgeon of calendaring thrown in. The _best_ these apps can do is to make it a bit easier to add, manage and keep track of the items in those lists.

Having something running around behind me taking notes and nagging to get this and that done is useful,it is only the first part of the story. What I actually want (and I suspect most others) - especially given it's been fed at least some of the information necessary - is something that helps expedite the actual tasks efficiently

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

#165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment has put Red Dwarf to the top of my reading list. I was an avid fan of the tv show and never thought to read the books. I think we all see a bit of Rimmer in ourselves when it comes to preparing for for an exam.

Me three! There should be some book/movie/series where the hero is some average Joe, does nothing heroic, no twists and turns, no rising from the ashes stuff, but lives his life happily.

You may enjoy various pieces of media labelled "slice of life", although this genre is often misapplied.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

#166
> Tasks are not the same. Get milk, write an essay, plan a vacation, reconnect with a friend. These are things of different magnitude, different emotional connection, different context and time commitment. Some tasks aren’t even tasks, e. g. simply items to keep track of or be reminded of. But TODO apps treat them the same.

This hits the nail on the head for me. I wonder if there's any to-do apps that let you ascribe effort/time to a task. Ranking current tasks by least effort would get me to start on one and get the ball rolling.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

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I tend not to have a long list, and I don't even do it on todo apps. I just put them on somewhere in which I can remember and create some bullet points to simplify the tasks and not become overwhelmed on the following tasks.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

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Almost all Todo apps have the problem of showing you stuff that you are incapable of just seeing things you _can accomplish right now_. I think people underestimate the amount of pain that comes from, over and over again, looking at a list of things you can't do anything about at a moment X. The only TODO app that I've found get this at least 95% right is Omnifocus with its billions of settings. Though there's still…

In GTD that is fixed through "contexts". E.g. you have a context "phone calls to make", and then next time you have time and are near a phone, you can start working on those tasks. Many todo apps have some sort of mechanism for that, or is this not what you mean since you seem to be familiar with GTD? GTD has a lot of solutions for various types of todo list problems, but then again, you have to be a quite conscienti…

Yeah I'm aware of contexts, but I was thinking more of things like deferring until certain dates and also having task sequencing (so for example if I defer the first task in a sequence, it won't show me the next tasks, since they're not available).

> GTD has a lot of solutions for various types of todo list problems, but then again, you have to be a quite conscientious person to follow through on all of the details of it. At which point you probably have no problem with plain scribbles on some loose paper.

I kinda disagree with that. Like I agree that you need to be studious, but not to the level of not needing the organization. "Being able to orgainze a list of tasks" and "being able to hold a list of tasks in your head" or "being able to work off the list of tasks without it being organized" are different things on different axes.

I would also much rather be like you wife, but absent that I'll at least do a thing that I know is better than nothing. Sometimes the results get thrown out but nothing is zero effort.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

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post #77

Almost all Todo apps have the problem of showing you stuff that you are incapable of just seeing things you _can accomplish right now_. I think people underestimate the amount of pain that comes from, over and over again, looking at a list of things you can't do anything about at a moment X. The only TODO app that I've found get this at least 95% right is Omnifocus with its billions of settings. Though there's still…

The problem isn't with the app, it's with us. We keep adding things we "should get to at some point". Well, I've got news for you, you're not going to magically be a person that reads Russian literature in the future, you're going to be you, and you hate Russian literature even though it's "good". TODO lists are aspirational, not pragmatic. We make them for someone else, the person we want to be. Unfortunately, we'll…

Speak for yourself. I actually do need to schedule a dentist appointment once a year, and having software deal with that for me is nice.

Some people actually organize their day-to-day "stuff that they need to do" through these lists.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

#170

I’ve tried a number of apps but I just keep on going back to a pretty notebook and a pen. I might need something different if I had more deadlines, I dunno, I have gone to great effort to generally free my life from those. Habitica is a gamified todo that does well enough to be around for many years. Never worked for me.

Have you tried Habinator? https://habinator.com

Nope, and my instant reaction to Happy Blob Friend under the first paragraph or so of copy is that I wanna punch him, not let him persuade me to do stuff.
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