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Today in the Jewish controlled press: Israel is doing great thing X (They left out the chance to point out how bad their neighbors are in comparison). And: "Great thing X" = Recovering... dead... bodies... fast... to help relatives (goyims) to come to terms faster (everything is so typically jewish about this "help", thank you, chosen people). Isn't there any place where you could do something with/for goyims before…
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> how you would feel if you were an Arab living in Palestine? Terrible. Either I'd feel terrible because I was oppressed by the Israelis or less likely I guess because I realized I was oppressed by Hamas and Iran. Again: I see both sides. If everyone here where overwhelmingly denying Israel ever did anything wrong I could play another role. That never happens though so I am relegated to always inform people about bas…
I’m not sure I understand your “less likely” remark. Are you conceding that Israel is doing most of the oppressing of Palestinians? Or do you mean that you wouldn’t feel terrible about Israeli land-theft/killing/jailing/apartheid because of Iran and Hamas? While we are on this topic: how is this a “both sides” issue? Let’s keep it simple and not try to compare Israel oppression of gazans to the Hamas/Iran oppression.…
I mean Hamas has a pretty strong grip over what gets said and written in Gaza.
> Please explain to us how does Hamas and Iran oppress West Bank Palestinians?
Torture, disappearances, embezzlement of aid, using civilians as shields. Iran comes in as supporters.
Yes, in some way this is not a both sides issue. One side is almost a normal democracy, the other is run by a cleptocratic regime that refuses to hold elections.
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> What's the alternative? A single multicultural country, with equal (ie. indistinguishable) rights and obligations (including Aliyah) to every 'type' of citizen. Rather than just a first world playground for one faction. You did ask.
I did! Although it was pertaining to "relatiation" i'm happy to offer my two cents on this as well. Almost that entire sentence exists today in israel. Rights are the same for all israeli citizens. Israeli muslims and israeli jews have the same rights inside the state of israel. Muslims are the third largest political party (and are part of the current coalition), they are supreme court judges (heck, a muslim judge s…
I said 'same rights and same obligations'.
You aren't equal (as in indistinguishably, truly equal) without both.
But a nice attempt to frame the conversation. [Do they send you on courses?]
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Best example here is the grand mufti of jerusalem. https://time.com/4084301/hitler-grand-mufi-1941/
Like I said, it’s really quite a stretch to conclude that “Arabs sided with the Nazis” because of the arguably inconsequential positions of one individual — from the small Palestinian subset of the middle-eastern Arab population. Mind you these meetings occurred at the tail end of the war to discuss the forced migration of European Jews to Palestine. Anyhow, what makes this feel like such a low misrepresentation are…
Good point. In all fairness you do have some good points and if you stick to them I say you have a better story.
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I did! Although it was pertaining to "relatiation" i'm happy to offer my two cents on this as well. Almost that entire sentence exists today in israel. Rights are the same for all israeli citizens. Israeli muslims and israeli jews have the same rights inside the state of israel. Muslims are the third largest political party (and are part of the current coalition), they are supreme court judges (heck, a muslim judge s…
> 'same rights' I said 'same rights and same obligations'. You aren't equal (as in indistinguishably, truly equal) without both. But a nice attempt to frame the conversation. [Do they send you on courses?]
If you live in the country the law is the same for everyone. No? Don't know what the obligations are. I'm not the "you" , clearly you're super knowledgable, go for it.
> But a nice attempt to frame the conversation. [Do they send you on courses?] Errr thanks?
Humanity has tried the whole "jews living under arab rule" before and it sucked. You can bash the israelis all you want but they're doing a much better job than anything a palestinian/arab rule would do to jews.