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Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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Post by dheera »

hemanta212 wrote: post #20

Sadly, this is how things are for many of us students, I currently study bachelors in CS here in Nepal and for me and some of my friends stuck in our villages (lockdown isn't still over here yet), we have been doing C assignments using editors avalialble in the playstore. Seeing these apps have millions of downloads, we're definitely not alone and I have seen many indian and other south asian friends do the same. My…

Suppose I had an extra PC lying around that I could donate (6th/7th gen Intel, can run Ubuntu 20.04, no monitor) -- (a) would that hypothetically be useful to you, and (b) how would I get it to you without spending on international shipping?

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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Post by andygmb »

rckoepke wrote: post #143
bigdict wrote: post #123

What is the connection to Nepal? The author seems to be from India.

You are correct, the title on HN is wrong. > "We are indians bro not Nepalese :laugh:"

FWIW, this thread originally linked to a tweet from a Nepalese-based person who found it in a Nepalese FB group, hence the confusion. No ill intent.

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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Post by gurubavan »

saeranv wrote: post #156

Recently I was looking to donate some money to Sri Lankan charities and was talking to various groups, asking them what their most urgent needs were and where I should allocate money. One charity was based in the Mullithivu region[1] which is an impoverished rural region in Sri Lanka. The kids there don't neccessarilly have access to the internet or computers at home, so with COVID are left behind as the schools move…

Thanks for mentioning this! I've also been looking to donate to Sri Lankan charities in the north-east but it has been difficult to understand which charities are still operating and have a legitimate impact.

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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Post by rishabhd »

This might be a big deal, but I have been mentoring this guy on an on and off basis, he does not have a laptop, is not a CS student (was studying for medical exam - NEET) and writes all his code on an android cellphone. He got interested in cyber security and wrote his first functional keylogger (disclaimer : it was good exercise to teach him basic *nix utilities and how native functionalities can be leveraged by an attackers to their end, not for malicious objectives) using his phone as an IDE, compiler and what not.

Talent, can come from anywhere.

https://github.com/shivamsuyal/Android-Keylogger

side note, he just completed his 12th class (us equivalent of high school) and is looking to research more in cybersec.

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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Post by bmsleight_ »

hemanta212 wrote: post #42
mnadkvlb wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, if you are interested you can reply me with your email address here, i can ship you a laptop for free (intel 5th gen i5) that i dont use anymore. it has 4gigs of ram soldered (surface pro 3). and can hopefully be used for some development.

Thank you for such kind and generous gesture. Sadly, with how things are with the courier and customs dep. here they can charge 30-40% of orignal price to receive electronic items Fortunately, I have managed to get few python freelance gigs here and there and in a few months, I may be able to afford one.

FedEx are very good, the sender can choose to pay all the charges.

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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Post by 908B64B197 »

jiggawatts wrote: post #26

Story time! I grew up in eastern Europe in the communist era, in a country where entire factories were run using Commodore 64 computers that were smuggled in, bypassing export controls and sanctions. The programmer at one such factory was a friend of my father, and we'd go over to his place for dinner semi-regularly. He didn't have kids, and I was six, so I was bored to tears. No toys and nobody my age to play with!…

> We fled across the iron curtain as political refugees, and I took that textbook with me. I had no access to computers for nearly a year, but when we finally got settled permanently in the West my dad bought a used C64 at a garage sale for a few dollars. This was a computer that back in my homeland would be the carefully guarded control hub of a factory. Here it was a discarded plaything. Even at that age, that blew my mind.

That's an incredible story! I can't help but think about all the wasted talent for those who couldn't escape. Truly communism held eastern Europe decades back.

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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Post by zepto »

cxr wrote: post #122
zepto wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Superior in what way? When it comes to programming, almost every way. Try getting a job if you only know how to program a TI-84. Now compare that with knowing python or JavaScript. > It’s far easier to write a minimal program on a TI calculator like the TI89. Yes, and far harder to write anything but a minimal program . Completely impossible to write anything in a commercially used language. > No App Store account…

> Completely impossible to write anything in a commercially used language. You're approaching this as if the comment was an opinion about the feasibility of doing commercial software development instead of what it was, which is a statement about HCI and the "implicit step zero" of software creation on today's commodity computing devices. Another way to put it is that this is a discussion about friction, and the origi…

The context is: “Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone.”

And: “It’s easier to program a TI-89 calculator than an iPhone.”

> The original comment as it stands is fine. Don't expect to be able to interpret it on different terms than the way it was meant to be understood.

The comment is complete bullshit in this context.

> instead of what it was, which is a statement about HCI and the "implicit step zero" of software creation on today's commodity computing devices.

This is simply not true. The comment was a response to a thread. You have made up a context in which it makes sense out of whole cloth.

You can see the comment wasn’t meant in this narrow context because the poster defended it by saying ‘superior in what way?’, rather than by clarifying the context in which it might be valid.

I miss the days when there was an instant on programmable device. We need that again. It would be great if iPhones shipped with Swift playgrounds as a pre-installed app for example.

Swift playgrounds shipping on iPhone sounds a lot like the “I wish there was something akin to TI-Basic for smartphones. A built-in IDE with an interpreted language, with easy path to compilation.”

So does Pythonista.

But a ti-84 is not easier to program than an iPhone, except for in the trivial sense that you can skip a few taps needed to install a programming app. Other than that, the ti is strictly worse.

I agree calculators are a good way to learn a limited form of programming, however Apps definitely better. If you want to quibble over the ease of installing an app vs purchasing a calculator, that’s a sideshow to the value of learning python vs ti-84 programming.

The irony is that the biggest obstacle to the iPhone being easy to program is people saying it’s hard to program rather than saying ‘use Pythonista’ or the like.

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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Post by adminscoffee »

jiggawatts wrote: post #26

Story time! I grew up in eastern Europe in the communist era, in a country where entire factories were run using Commodore 64 computers that were smuggled in, bypassing export controls and sanctions. The programmer at one such factory was a friend of my father, and we'd go over to his place for dinner semi-regularly. He didn't have kids, and I was six, so I was bored to tears. No toys and nobody my age to play with!…

hey, i coded since i was a child as well but i would never say someone will never be fluent in the "mother tongue", i am sure you are dedicated but, don't stop others down, a ton of people learn later on in life and manage just fine. some people started later because lack of access, my first computer as well was a c64, i too have coded in basic, pascal and the likes, and i know people who has started later and just got their first job, i don't judge anyone who wants to take up programming later on in life, not everyone gets the same start in life and that is okay, anyways, ive met people who learned english and you would never be able to tell they weren't native speakers, at the end of the day, any language mastery comes down to time, and grit.

Re: Nepalese student learns HTML, JavaScript, CSS using just a mobile phone

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Post by mullen »

perilunar wrote: post #77

Honestly, a smartphone is more powerful than any of the computers I used to learn HTML, JS or CSS. Better screen resolution too. The main problem is screen size . Also, TIL you can buy screen magnifiers for under $20. e.g. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=screen+magnifier

This definitely falls under the category of "Why Did I Not Think of This?"
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