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Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Once upon a time Reddit was a link aggregator. You would post a link and the author would get credit. You could save the link without Reddit. But Reddit is moving towards first party content. Not only has the site added native photo and video upload support but many communities disallow external content. Requiring a reupload or a screenshot. This not only removes the link to the actual creator but is also a nightmare…

Maybe a coincidence, but my completely non-technical sister called me this week to pitch her ‘app idea’ (feature) “screenshots should have the link embedded in it”. And I had to explain that it’s probably not possible, except if ios or Android implemented it directly (more so iOS, I’m not up familiar with android).

And ultimately that’s sad, because it should 1. Be possible to implement and 2. Should already have been implemented by the platforms.

Last week I struggled to send an Austin powers gif via signal.

Because searching via images on google & ddg forced me to a website (wouldn’t just give me the result) and then those websites did everything possible to NOT give me a gif.

I’m disappointed that this has become the reality of the internet, and I think many people on this site are in the same boat.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

#162

Reddit hosted videos have been such a joke lately. They are just ripped from YouTube and TikTok, almost always with out the creators permission.

History repeating itself... Reddit becoming Ebaum's World https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxlO5IGst-E

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

#163

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> I wonder why sharing of links is so unpopular It’s because the most active parts of Reddit’s user base prefer it this way. Reddit has become about rapid-fire content consumption without leaving the site. Following a link and actually reading an article for 5-10 minutes isn’t as exciting as rapidly consuming a few videos, a few screenshots, and a few self posts along with the top comments for the most interesting on…

Yeah, my wife scrolls /r/all, expands posts (some of them text posts), and closes them, possibly clicking into the comments to discuss. If, at any point, she accidentally follows a link, it really pisses her off It's nice to have videos, images, and short articles in a familiar layout I know I'm much more likely to click a recipe link if it's a self-post, because recipes on non-reddit websites always seem to be gated…

All problems that are instantly solved by opening links(even within the same site) in separate tabs. One of the many reasons I never use Reddit on the phone.

Too bad websites are even making this inconsistent and broken, by using cursed webdesign to a degree that the browser can't figure out if an element is interactive before the user clicks on it.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

#164

I really don’t miss Reddit, I’ve deleted the accounts I had there and am much better off for it. I’m not sure when the real tipping point was but that platform has really lost its way.

The niche subreddits are still valuable to me, particularly stuff like r/emacs and r/AskHistorians

Yeah, for all its faults, I'm going to be really sad when "old reddit" dies.

The main pages are garbage, but I'm in some truly great niche communities that are going to be hard to replace. And even if I do, they'll be spread over a dozen websites instead of organized in a single place.

I suppose cobbling together a replacement on discord is the future, which I've really tried to avoid.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

#165

Once upon a time Reddit was a link aggregator. You would post a link and the author would get credit. You could save the link without Reddit. But Reddit is moving towards first party content. Not only has the site added native photo and video upload support but many communities disallow external content. Requiring a reupload or a screenshot. This not only removes the link to the actual creator but is also a nightmare…

> I wonder why sharing of links is so unpopular It’s because the most active parts of Reddit’s user base prefer it this way. Reddit has become about rapid-fire content consumption without leaving the site. Following a link and actually reading an article for 5-10 minutes isn’t as exciting as rapidly consuming a few videos, a few screenshots, and a few self posts along with the top comments for the most interesting on…

I just hate how it is not consistent with the clicking. (Same problem everywhere). Click a thumbnail of image to expand full size. Click a thumbnail of image ling to go to site. I only wanted to expand the thumbnail and not go to the site. If after I expand the thumbnail and find it interesting, then I will want a link.

On HN, if post is not a link, clicking on title brings to comments. If post is a link, clicking on title brings to link. Can't we just have clicking on title brings to comments and a separate icon for going to external website?

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

#166

Once upon a time Reddit was a link aggregator. You would post a link and the author would get credit. You could save the link without Reddit. But Reddit is moving towards first party content. Not only has the site added native photo and video upload support but many communities disallow external content. Requiring a reupload or a screenshot. This not only removes the link to the actual creator but is also a nightmare…

> I wonder why sharing of links is so unpopular It’s because the most active parts of Reddit’s user base prefer it this way. Reddit has become about rapid-fire content consumption without leaving the site. Following a link and actually reading an article for 5-10 minutes isn’t as exciting as rapidly consuming a few videos, a few screenshots, and a few self posts along with the top comments for the most interesting on…

>>>It’s because the most active parts of Reddit’s user base prefer it this way.

I would love to see any semblance of evidence that this is true.

Reddit shoves a lot of things down your throat and forces users to do things without providing alternatives.

It's super aggressive in making you use their app (the mobile site is purposely broken), aggressive about making you create an account, and doesn't allow alternatives for sharing images in some instances.

And while we're at it (poor feature, not necessarily a preference), its search is awful.

I highly doubt these are things "Reddit's user base prefer."

The one saving grace reddit has right now are its niche communities where comments are still thoughtful and the content is still interesting. Reddit does everything it can to get in the way of that.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

#168

Once upon a time Reddit was a link aggregator. You would post a link and the author would get credit. You could save the link without Reddit. But Reddit is moving towards first party content. Not only has the site added native photo and video upload support but many communities disallow external content. Requiring a reupload or a screenshot. This not only removes the link to the actual creator but is also a nightmare…

> I get people sending me things that I might like as a screenshot. Great, nice jacket, if only I could click that "buy" button. I wonder why sharing of links is so unpopular, especially outside of the tech-sphere. Is it that "link previews" are generally worse than a screenshot of the page?

For the sender, especially on mobile, it takes less time to take and share a screenshot, then it takes to get the URL, copy it and paste it into a message.

For the receiver, it takes less time to receive and view a screenshot then it takes to recieve and open a link. Web page rendering times suck, so the people have found a solution to work around that.

I much prefer to receive a screenshot of what someone wants me to see, than a link. I can view picture messages much more quickly than I can view links, and I often wont click a link because I don't want to sit there waiting for a page to finish rendering.

It's either slow because it's full of adverts, or it's slow because it's stalling waiting for an advert/tracker to load that's blocked by the pihole.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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You're aware there is a difference between discrimination and categorization, right?

I don't understand the distinction or how it applies to the example above, can you please explain it to me.

With respect to how it applies to the above:

r/lesbians is a porn subreddit with content restricted to female same sex porn content. This is just categorisation.

r/truelesbians was supposed to a subreddit for lesbians to aggregate and discuss stuff. What ended up happening was while it was still a lesbian focused subreddit, it became a breeding ground for anti-trans/TERF content/discussions/rhetoric and the moderation of the sub enforced those beliefs. This is what makes r/truelesbians discriminatory instead of just being categorisation. It takes a step from "don't post content that doesn't belong here" to "don't post content that doesn't belong here AND don't post at all here if you match some arbitrary biological definition we don't like or if you support those people".

You also have r/actuallesbians which branched off from r/truelesbians when they got TERFy. r/actuallesbians is inclusive of all people who identify as female but have the same original focus of providing a platform to discuss and aggregate female same sex/lesbian content/discussions. This once again is categorisation and not discrimination because anyone can post there as long as the posts are on topic. Additionally the content of the sub isn't discriminatory in this case because it's focused on a topic (about same sex female relationships) rather than focused against another (against trans individuals).

So r/lesbians and r/actuallesbians both are categorical while r/truelesbians was discriminatory on top of being categorical because of the exclusionary nature of the subreddit.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

#170

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> I have literally _a toolbar button_ in my Android web browser that downloads the video of any page that I'm viewing right now Well, that's you. It might surprise you to know, not everyone is you. > Basically, the "unconvenient" method you are describing is literally fewer taps away than the "convenient" method of messaging SaveVideo, which has no autocomplete at all, and _requires me to login to Reddit_ Of course I…

> Well, that's you. I really don't understand this argument. Isn't this basically a variation of https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_QAQumXIAAZ-re?format=jpg ? > Where's the "extreme flaw" in my reasoning, please? "Extreme flaw" is your words, not mine. In any case, we are already down to the same number of taps for both methods, and this while still assuming: * That I'm either already logged in or that I can login in "2 t…

> "Extreme flaw" is your words, not mine.

I would have let this slide but I really don't like it when people put words in my mouth. Check your previous post, read carefully, you are the first person to use those words :).

> Isn't this basically a variation of https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_QAQumXIAAZ-re?format=jpg

No it is not. You're telling us to use car tires when we are on bikes. Car tires are nice but it's useless for me when I am riding a bike.

> That I'm either already logged in or that I can login in "2 taps" (very dubious, specially for old.reddit.com)

This is a reasonable assumption because, I quote myself:

> Of course I made the assumption that you are already logged in to Reddit, because that's the type of person the usage of this bot is for anyway. If you browse without an account, this is not the bot (or service) you are looking for.

I grant you I did overlook old.reddit.com does not have OAuth. But browsers do save your login credentials, which is even faster.

> That I can search whether there is an existing link with no effort or taps (easier with old.reddit.com, at the cost of swiping, unlikely with the new one), or that I don't otherwise care about telling everyone that I have downloaded the video.

I'll grant searching for an existing link isn't the easiest thing in the world but the upvote system kinda compensates for this.

You can delete comments if you don't mind announcing to everyone you DLed a video. Or use an alt. Or if you do it rarely enough, yeah why not a downloader site.

Again, this bot is for people invested in Reddit's ecosystem.

> * That the bot is going to reply immediately and not make me wait an indefinite amount of time, and that I will not need to manually tap refresh N times to see when it is finished (which is the case in old.reddit.com).

That's why you have notifs. I mean if you need to download this video right now then, maybe this bot isn't for you. But most people don't need right now.

> Does that really change the argument? Would that make it "useful" instead of "shameless self promotion"? > > Of course not.

Except it does. If you add the DL link to each of your comment that also happens to link your product, you become _that guy_ who's always provides a link to the video download without being asked to. It's useful precisely because you anticipated what the user would need your services for. I'm baffled I need to spell that out.

If I stuff every bulletin board with a flyer for my computer repair services, I'm just another voice in that messy pile. But if I repair people's computers and then give them my calling card/flyer, they are likely to not find that annoying because I had a good pretext for advertising my services.

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