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Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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The one thing I don't get, and I worked for AMZN in logistics, is the co-mingling of inventory. It is so easy to solve, poses so many problems and yet the logistics benchmark company fails to do it right.

I always assumed they tracked co-mingled sourcing internally, but don't have a reason to make it public. At least that way they could trace the people who were seriously poisoning the co-mingled well, in circumstances where they wanted to.

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Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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A mathematical side note: I might be woefully ignorant but I thought it's not possible to make a Klein bottle in the real world...? This is not to belittle Stoll's work, it might be a model or approximation... or I'm just missing something.

You are correct. Stoll makes a projection of Klein bottles into 3-space which results in them being self-intersecting.

Yep, exactly.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Exactly right. Watching Ebay and Amazon converge on being "Aliexpress" has really made me sad. I understand the folks who are measuring themselves by how effectively they promise quality and deliver crap to their customers. I understand their goal is maximum profit as their best score. And I understand that enough of the market doesn't care that it is crap that they prefer this over a quality good. Back when Walmart…

>> Aliexpress I used to buy a lot of cheap things on there, then something interesting started happening. Every time I made a purchase on there, literally a few weeks later, I would start getting fraudulent charges on my card. Thank god, my bank would call and ask, "Are you in Paris France right now? Someone just tried to purchase 3,000 euros worth of clothing on your card." I haven't bought anything on there for abo…

Yes. I was annoyed when Bank of America discontinued the feature that allowed me to create a single-used credit card number and fund it with a limited amount of money. That was a good solution to the bogus charges problem. But it was so hidden on the BofA site that few used it.

I'd like to have that service back.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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I am confused too. Especially this part: On June 22nd, they used Amazon's Brand Registry to re-brand my listing on Amazon (replacing my brand, "Acme Klein Bottle" with "Amvoom") They could do this because Amazon's Brand Registry only respects issued trademarks. I don't get this at all. Attacker has a trademark on "Amvoom". The word "Amvoom" does not appear in Stoll's product name or description. It isn't even close t…

Kirill, you've put your finger on the central problem. Amazon should check that a product which is claimed by a Brand is actually covered by the "goods & services" listed under that trademark.

I just want to say: your crawlspace-forklift is beyond awesome.

https://hackaday.com/2015/06/24/crawlspace-warehouse-include...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k3mVnRlQLU

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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This, and other instances of this scam make me not want to buy anything off Amazon ever again. Where is Amazon in this? Why is this even a thing ? Is there no oversight at all? Amazon has now become the Alibaba of the west and it makes me sick to think the once beloved marketplace is now just scamville. I typically buy from sellers websites now and rarely buy off of Amazon but now I feel I need to completely remove A…

Amazon simply is on the same level as eBay now. (No idea about Alibaba.) It’s really sad to see.

Definitely or worse. I use Amazon as a last resort. eBay is first choice for cheap stuff. For expensive stuff I tend to go for bricks and mortar stores.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Amazon is unfortunately a very convenient plague on our beautiful ppanet, and Bezos seems like a borderline (if not outright) psychopath. it's late and i need to sleep, but just search the internet for "Jeff Bezos is a scumbag" and you'll see that people don't "just" hate him because he's filthy rich (nothing wrong with being filthy rich, lots of great people are!).

https://trofire.com/2019/01/28/scumbag-jeff-bezos-to-lose-bi...

https://www.grunge.com/143621/the-dark-truth-about-amazon-fo...

there is a lot more but I am tired. we should all boycott/avoid using Amazon.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Guess I'd better say a few things. First, I deeply appreciate that so many on Hacker News have come out for this. Enough to awaken me from a sound sleep on a Tuesday evening! I don't really care that much about selling Klein bottles over Amazon - it's mainly to reach parents over the holidays. But I do wish that Amazon would do something about this kind of thing. Finally, I"m very low on stocks of glass Klein bottles…

My reciprocal appreciation to Fury, Atlanta/n, and Meester (and my many other friends on Hacker News).

I deeply appreciate the kindness and support of the hacker community - sends me back thirty five years to when I was fooling with a Unix workstation and stumbled on a small accounting error. Back then, I was surprised by the outpouring of help, suggestions, and collaboration from other computer folk.

At this moment, I again thank this community -- across decades and across the globe, I'm heartened and happy to be one of the gang.

Warm wishes all around,

       -Cliff

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Good fodder for him to write a sequel.

Any suggestions on where I should post a slightly more academic version of this analysis? Somehow, posting here on Hacker News seems like I'm talking with friends at a cafe; surely there's a better place for this to be addressed. I'm not even sure if this kind of thing falls under the aegis of "computer security"

It's a social engineering- or maybe trademark/big online platform loophole engineering attack, sounds like a computer security issue imho. It could certainly be done to scam other sellers as well, and perhaps it has already.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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They're still in denial that they have a problem. Just read the thread on the previous occasion where listings got hijacked on their own fora [0] - its sad to see the sellers so powerless, helpless and just left to themselves. You really have to wonder why they even bother... Edit: also, reading that thread you can also get a feel why big brands have completely left AMZN as a platform (like Adidas, Birkenstock are a…

I no longer buy anything important from Amazon, this especially goes for anything that plugs into the mains, I just don't trust Amazon any more. Amazon is now just for those low value items that I might need in a bit of a rush. This is especially true now that more and more retailers have caught up with Amazon's shipping (at least here in the UK).

They seem to want it both ways. They have simultaneously tried to argue that they are not responsible for third-party sellers and blame them when fake and/or unsafe goods are sold, but then they work hard to make it appear that everything is coming from one place. It gets particularly annoying when it's a product with lots of variations (colours/sizes etc) where each variant will be a different seller with different shipping.

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