Looks like KDE with fixed magins :)
Microsoft announces Windows 11
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#162How does word look using the new design language? Still ribbons or is it back to menus or something completely different?
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#163I can't wait to see if "Device Manager" still uses the same Windows 95 GUI.
If you're lucky they've built a new one with reduced functionality and a button to open the old one. That's how they usually handle things.
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#164> " Microsoft is also integrating Microsoft Teams directly into Windows 11, for both consumers and commercial users. " Not that I have any objections to Teams per se but attempting to drive adoption by bundling got Microsoft in trouble in the IE era; didn't they learn their lesson? Either way, probably the first thing I'll be doing after a fresh install of Windows 11 is uninstalling Teams.
I think they learned their lesson very well. Microsoft suffered little for bundling Internet Explorer into Windows. The court case cost them some time and money, and in return they made no substantive business changes, and shut out browser competition for years. They had a plan and it worked. Why shouldn’t they do it again?
it worked?!?
they pretty much lost browser war to chrome and safari
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#165So taskbar extends horizontally and places icons in the middle, which means: 1. It creates unnecessary visual clutter in the right and left sides and takes up valuable space. 2. Users will have harder time clicking to start button. I’m having hard time seeing what is UX benefit of this?
The first rule of UX design, as far as I'm concerned, is: Don't make me think.
Moving stuff around? You just made me think. You'd better have a good reason for that, better than just "it will play better on touch devices". I'm not on a touch device, so you just slowed me down to solve a problem that I don't have.
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#166So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…
> lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? I didn’t watch the video, and your question mark gives me hope: Was this actually said? A horizontal taskbar would be horrible.
You have been able to move the task bar to left/right screen edges for years. If your task bar is not locked, just click and drag it to the window edges.
A feature to Left align the buttons has been shown in the leaked builds.
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#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most likely easy to disable. Pretty sure I have Cortana and Microsoft Store but I disabled the services, removed the Taskbar icons and never think about it heh.
I wouldn't be surprised if both of those are still running in Task Manager's process list if you look, under unassuming names like SearchUI.exe. It's quite hard to disable Microsoft's malware in my experience, a lot of it relaunches itself, or comes back after an OS update. The number of running Microsoft processes goes up every year.
I've given up. If you have a computer with a spinning rust disk this crap alone will saturate the I/O and become completely unusable. (then you have OEM bloatware which has also become harder to remove and bloated software in general on top of that.)
At this point I just hand people thumbdrives with PopOS on them when they complain that their computer is slow. Both OSes run Android apps and between that, the web, and wine most people hardly miss anything.
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#168Not a fan of the Android apps installable and discoverable onto Windows...but through the Amazon appstore. Weird, and I'd much more prefer installing to PC from Google Play itself.
I think amazon's appstore is free of google play services which could be a big reason
Not having google play services is a big reason the amazon store is a barren wasteland
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's bad design in the sense that they took a part of the operating system that's been in the same place for a quarter century and moved it for seemingly no reason while leaving a bunch of other neglected issues to be dealt with later. I guess fixing the damned control panel and various settings apps isn't sexy enough. Frankly this whole update stinks of "oh we hired a bunch of new MBAs and they have to make their ma…
I think it's ironic how often HN discusses various software development methodologies, release early-and-often, etc. But Microsoft slowly iterating on the Settings panel over time is seen as a bad thing.
If they're iterating on this at all it's at a glacial pace. The settings and control panel workflow has been broken since Windows 8.
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#170Putting the start menu button in the middle of the panel rather than at a corner seems to forget Fitts' Law. Is this a push to make people use hotkeys more or just bad design?
It's bad design in the sense that they took a part of the operating system that's been in the same place for a quarter century and moved it for seemingly no reason while leaving a bunch of other neglected issues to be dealt with later. I guess fixing the damned control panel and various settings apps isn't sexy enough. Frankly this whole update stinks of "oh we hired a bunch of new MBAs and they have to make their ma…
> and moved it for seemingly no reason
There is one good reason: some screens are getting really wide.