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Peloton's $3k treadmill now comes with surprise 'subscription fee'

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Re: Peloton's $3k treadmill now comes with surprise 'subscription fee'

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In terms of just using the app and not the bike: The bike hardware is very good. Peloton claims to only break even on it and I can believe that - it’s an extremely sturdy bike.

It's not 2 grand good. It's similar to bikes that cost $1K or less. There is no way they're only breaking even on the bikes unless their supply chain is complete garbage.

Can you share a sub-1k bike that is just as well built?

Re: Peloton's $3k treadmill now comes with surprise 'subscription fee'

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Anyone who is remotely tech-savvy has been on the continuum from skeptical of "free" cloud-based services, to downright paranoid. Two decades ago the joke was your fridge would stop working unless you paid for a microsoft upgrade. Obviously satire, it did carry an obvious warning that cloud-enable devices are owned by the cloud and not the purchaser. And here we are now with Peloton bricking a treadmill.

To reference a cliche, I think Peloton turned up the heat a little two quickly and the frog jumped out of the pot of water. But they will learn to go more slowly in the future, the same way that we see people lazily subscribing to multiple $5.99 streaming TV channels, ultimately costing more than cable.

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'The company has cited "safety and well-being" as a reason for introducing the membership fee.' I've noticed the "fake because" lately seems to be getting more and more brazen from corporations. This is about the third or fourth "for your safety and convenience we're helping ourselves to more of your money" I've seen in the last couple months, and unfortunately all the other ones I've seen are for products or service…

> governments willing to take more of our money, spend less of theirs

One way to fix this is to vote for people who believe everyone (including corporations) should pay their fair share of taxes, rather than just the middle class, aka the overtaxed 90%.

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I mean the entire business model of the company seems to be to depart rich people from their money in obscene ways, so that move does not seem unexpected. I generally do not understand the thought process of buying a tablet glued to a treadmill for three thousand dollars. That's like what, a decade of gym membership

> seems to be to depart rich people from their money in obscene ways

This nails it. The startup tech boom has a large contingent of, "how can we take a cheap device, cloud-it-up, add some design, and sell it at 20x the price to the bougie?" I literally stay awake at night trying to think of something I can modify and sell to rich people.

And by "rich" people, I mean people in the 10% and above income brackets, or people that will go into debt to have the latest gadget.

Examples:

- Car-rooftop tents

- Fancy blenders

- Super-expensive coolers

- Deluxe earphones

- Deluxe vacuum cleaners

- Deluxe portable fans

- Deluxe juice machines

- Deluxe "man kits" (yes, its a thing: https://www.mancrates.com/, https://manlymanco.com)

...

I am racking my brains to come up with the next fancy thing...

Re: Peloton's $3k treadmill now comes with surprise 'subscription fee'

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I mean the entire business model of the company seems to be to depart rich people from their money in obscene ways, so that move does not seem unexpected. I generally do not understand the thought process of buying a tablet glued to a treadmill for three thousand dollars. That's like what, a decade of gym membership

These are competing with fitness studios like Soul Cycle- which charges $40+ a class after shoe rental and water. The bike is more like $2000 at least for the standard bike, not $3000. My wife bought one in November 2019, and both joined the "century club" (100 rides) by the middle of 2020 and she takes the Yoga classes as well and I have done a few strength classes- its not just about the bike. We had never previous…

I did crossfit for about 8 years and then switched to Orange Theory when my Xfit gym started to become overrun with bruhs, chads, and qanonfitters. I quit OT after the COVID, but was going to because it was become increasingly loud and hyper-cheery. Which is a bummer, because I really like working out with a group of people way more than alone, especially when we are all like: ok, we gotta finish this even if it sucks. I don't see how this can be captured digitally, but maybe I am too old (which I think is become a real thing, the digital gap as GenX starts to not understand the new relationship with tech... not saying you are young just hypothesizing...)

Re: Peloton's $3k treadmill now comes with surprise 'subscription fee'

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This feature is part of the YouTube Red subscription. Which doesn't really add that much in addition, aside from partial ad removal and video downloads, all completely free on PC.

It adds more support (10x to 20x) for the content creators than ads, with the bonus of not watching ads. For some people, this is quite valuable. As a side note, the video downloading is made available in the mobile app as well.

I could also invest those monthly bucks in some Patreon subscriptions to my favorite channels, which gets them drastically more and makes them less dependent on YouTube. It would even let me set the precise amount and distribution. And not pay a shady ad company on top.
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