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Six charged in Silicon Valley insider trading ring

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Re: Six charged in Silicon Valley insider trading ring

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Okay so now let's take person A and person B. A is super friendly. B is an asshole. A and B both indepedently go solo hiking to the same park. A ends up making some friends with some company X employees on the trail, hikes with them for part of the trail, and hears inside info, and then they depart ways. B is an asshole and so those people don't want to talk to B. B makes no friends, hikes alone the whole time, and t…

The employees in that scenario are sharing insider information, and are all committing a crime. Whatever you hear from them and is probably non-public info is also illegal to trade on. I mean, what exactly do you expect to happen if this is allowed? Put everyone who works on finance and the executives under 24/7 surveillance? Pay them ransom for not sharing their employer’s data? It would simply be an institutionaliz…

I think they might be one of those 'free-market' types, with a whiff of Ayn Rand. I read a number of their other comments.

I am not answering for them, merely observing a trend.

I'm definitely on the side that favors heavy market regulation. History shows us that it works better with heavy regulations - that is that it works better for more people rather than better for a small group of people. In the US, something like 52% (the last time I read some numbers) have invested in the stock market. I'd rather they be treated fairly, with a more equal playing field.

Hmm... It looks like it's now 53%:

https://usafacts.org/articles/what-percentage-of-americans-o...

Re: Six charged in Silicon Valley insider trading ring

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I'm not sure if this is standard for SEC press releases, but why do they include details such as, "he was a school teacher" and, "he owed gambling debts"? I've always suspected the SEC investigations regarding things like insider trading are typically the opposite of justice and designed to go after the smallest possible players while giving the illusion of enforcement. And these details in an allegedly serious inves…

>why do they include details such as, "he was a school teacher" and, "he owed gambling debts"?

I would assume to soften the expectations that result in this kind of no-guilt thing you never see given to...other segments of society:

Bannon, Rauch, and Ramaiya consented to the entry of final judgments without admitting or denying the allegations in the complaint

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Quarterly earnings is pretty antiquated anyway. Perhaps public companies should just report continuous / daily earnings via automated accounting software. This should make it harder to hide accounting fraud and improve transparency and market fairness.

Perhaps. But why do we actually care about market fairness? I care that companies get shit done. I want to see electric cars, cancer cures, solar power, and vaccines. I don't care that the markets are fair. If an unfair market means I get those things faster I'm all for it. FWIW I get cheaper strawberries than most people because I'm good at bargaining. Markets aren't supposed to be fair, they're supposed to factor i…

Isn't the argument that fair markets are what allow all that stuff to get done? In other words they are better for the group over the long term. Unfair (via corruption or whatever have you) markets tend to stagnate and are good for the individual in the short term (eg within their own lifetime).

Also, who wants to haggle over strawberries every single time you shop? There's a definite time cost to having to "discover" the price on every single transaction.

Re: Six charged in Silicon Valley insider trading ring

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> the only people who like it are the people high status enough to not be subject to it Everyone at the SEC is keenly aware that bagging a high-ranking financier is a ticket to higher office.

>bagging a high-ranking financier is a ticket to higher office. And not bagging is a ticket to a very nice corner office I guess :)

The fact we haven't come up with a single SEC-to-higher-office example seems to indicate that your scenario is more common...
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