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Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by thefourthchime »

CraigJPerry wrote: post #5

I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…

“Loud pipes save lives” is just like “the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun”. It sounds good, but falls apart it the real world.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by dexterdog »

buffalo2391 wrote: post #33
turbinerneiter wrote: post #27

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No, cars are isolated. Safe driving practices are safe. Like knowing the perception psychology that makes it hard for cars to see you and try to counter that. https://youtu.be/x94PGgYKHQ0

Purely anecdotally I used to have a motorcycle that after about a year had the muffler need replacement. I was a poor student and so bought a fake one instead that was just a muffler shaped pipe. The difference was immediate and extremely noticable, the number of near misses went down a huge amount and the few times people got a little close I could just chuck the clutch in and give it a good rev to scare anyone off.…

Why wouldn't you just put a wind-powered vuvuzela on the front instead? Then it's only being obnoxious when you're in motion and it's pointed in the direction that you want people to hear you instead of the opposite.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by graton »

tartoran wrote: post #70
hamoid wrote: post #40

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To me the sound of those big bikes is a form of terrorism. They rise my blood pressure, increase stress levels and make me hate. Try living somewhere where every 20 minutes such bikes make the windows of your flat shake and you can't hear your TV or your partner talking until the bike is gone. Why do I have to suffer this every day of my life? I can't wait until the ICE is part of our primitive past.

Harley’s exhausts make me sick even if I cover by ears, the sound vibrates through my body. I also dislike a tool reving all the way up his standing crotch rocket in front of my house, it’s both bad for the engine and done to draw attention and annoy others, why is this even allowed? Or the exploding sound which makes my dog enter a panic attack? They install some special exhausts pipes for that, how is that legal?

From my understanding a stock Harley coming out of the factory is relatively quiet. They manufacture them to meet legal requirements.

It is just that majority of owners seem to replace exhaust system components to give it that "Harley sound".

Here is somebody doing a decibel test of their stock Harley: https://youtu.be/4LzFC1Ts7PE?t=63

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by reader_mode »

83457 wrote: post #139
NikolaNovak wrote: post #67

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I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…

I always assumed that the point of loud vehicles was to assert dominance by being an asshole. If people are annoyed and upset then it is working exactly as intended. You have provoked an emotion that fuels your ego and image of yourself as a bad ass that doesn't care about other people.

I don't have aftermarket pipes - but your post is clearly from perspective of someone who doesn't ride. Sound is an essential part of the riding thrill, riding my bike past 10k RPM gives me F1 sound and insane rush. I suspect riding an electric motorcycle would be much less thrilling that way and make me more aware that I'm on a suicide machine.

I regularly get small children approach me on motorcycle and want to pull the throttle, then get scared, then want to do it again, there's something primal about that, it's (mostly) not about other people.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by NikolaNovak »

teknopaul wrote: post #117
snarfy wrote: post #97

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Nothing brings out my violent psychotic tic faster than an asshole with a loud vehicle.

Road rage is a terrible thing, nothing brings out intolerance like a metal cage. Try to abstract it, see road rage as a thing in itself, don't let it in. If you get there, all of a sudden you don't mind what or how other people drive. If you don't get there, it's only you that suffers. That tic can't express itself in your self-imposed cage.

I completely agree road rage is a terrible thing; I agree we are all responsible for our own behaviour; and as drivers we should not allow such things get to us.

But a needlessly loud motorcycle, particularly the kinds that "detonate/explode" on shifts/off-gas, will make me jump and annoy no matter what I'm doing - reading a book, having a coffee, mowing the lawn, going for a walk, playing with my kid, whatever... especially since unlike some similarly annoying sounds (Snoring, anyone :P), it is 100% purely intentional. This rider went out of their way to make it such, knowingly and willingly they spent money time & effort.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by mchusma »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #67
CraigJPerry wrote: post #5

I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…

I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…

In my life, the most clear & obvious example of negative externalities is loud vehicles. I'm saying this as someone who would cut 90% of regulation: but I think anyone on a public street with a vehicle louder than a UPS truck should get fine. Enforced by a camera and microphone array.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by baybal2 »

lubesGordi wrote: post #156
baybal2 wrote: post #95

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I noticed that people on more powerful bikes crash way more often for their own lack of driving skill, than the other way around. Lost count to seeing scenes like kids on H2Rs "crashing" into something at like just above pedestrian speeds. It takes a lot of skill to drive a powerful, and heavy motorcycle. It's definitely should not be your first, or even second machine. I'm myself on two-wheelers for 15 years still f…

Bigger more powerful bikes usually have flatter torque curves which make the bike easier to control.

Top heavy, steep rake, 200kg+ sport bikes are completely unridable in a city no matter what the torque control is.

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Post by pier25 »

CraigJPerry wrote: post #5

I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…

Loud motorbikes should be forbidden. Period.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by kelp »

Leherenn wrote: post #148
NikolaNovak wrote: post #67

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I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…

Where I live, they have started adding noise pollution cameras in the city center. They don't give ticket, just display the noise level and a smiley, but I'd love for them to become active and more common. It's so annoying being woken up at night because of some kind of really loud exhaust noise.

I'd love it if there were automated tickets for this. But California can't even get it together to allow automated speeding tickets, a bill for this just got killed.

In SOMA in San Francisco I'll often hear motorcycles drive by that are so loud they set off car alarms along their path.

And don't get me started on the cost/benefit of car alarms.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by hourislate »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #67
CraigJPerry wrote: post #5

I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…

I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…

Love this South Park Episode.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipDmsxQVxIM

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