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Benzene detected in many sunscreen products

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Re: Benzene detected in many sunscreen products

#161
I've reduced using sunscreen a lot by wearing a hat with a wide brim, and long sleeve shirts when I expect to be outside for a while.

Yeah I look stupid in the hat, but one advantage to growing older is one quits worrying about that. Besides, my aussie outback hat has grown on me :-)

Re: Benzene detected in many sunscreen products

#162

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> Is this because the US is so insanely litigious? Part of it is the weird setup of jury trials for civil cases, especially impactful in cases revolving around fairly technical, detail-oriented stuff like malpractice. Twelve randomly selected lay people may not be the best determiners of scientific evidence and in-depth statistical analysis.

It's enough to put people to death, so it should be enough for everything else.

Twelve randomly selected lay people shouldn't get to decide to allow the State to kill people, either.

Re: Benzene detected in many sunscreen products

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>The US links sited state no evidence for causing cancer. It's benzine. It's a known carcinogen, no need for empiricism here.

There are lots of known carcinogens for which the dosage is important. For example... sunlight. There's a reason the "this product contains a chemical known to the State of California to cause cancer" warning labels are a bit of a joke, after all.

benzene is not one of those

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Neutrogena is owned by Johnson and Johnson - which just payed out on a case relating to cancer from baby-powders [1]. Combined with Neutrogena being more or less _very high_ in benezine content and J&J having a very deep suite of cancer treatment drugs [2]... This seems like a horrific story of a self-fulfilling product pipeline. I know they're a giant organization and suggesting conspiracy is a bit insane but I can'…

JnJ tries to label each product differently so that bad name from one does not affect the name of the other. Such as in the case of Tylenol recall.

How do you know that other product lines are not affected by one raw supplier. Maybe there was some pollutant in a supply of product A that lots of companies use and put in their own products. They would also be affected.

Re: Benzene detected in many sunscreen products

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Neutrogena is owned by Johnson and Johnson - which just payed out on a case relating to cancer from baby-powders [1]. Combined with Neutrogena being more or less _very high_ in benezine content and J&J having a very deep suite of cancer treatment drugs [2]... This seems like a horrific story of a self-fulfilling product pipeline. I know they're a giant organization and suggesting conspiracy is a bit insane but I can'…

From what I've seen, it's not that uncommon (eg the GM street car consipiracy). Companies aren't as overt as they used to be, but I think they still do it. One example I'm curious about is investment firms ownership in US car companies prior to the spike in oil prices and great recession.

Re: Benzene detected in many sunscreen products

#166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are lots of known carcinogens for which the dosage is important. For example... sunlight. There's a reason the "this product contains a chemical known to the State of California to cause cancer" warning labels are a bit of a joke, after all.

benzene is not one of those

One molecule of benzene will guarantee a cancer case?

Re: Benzene detected in many sunscreen products

#167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is this because the US is so insanely litigious? Part of it is the weird setup of jury trials for civil cases, especially impactful in cases revolving around fairly technical, detail-oriented stuff like malpractice. Twelve randomly selected lay people may not be the best determiners of scientific evidence and in-depth statistical analysis.

It's enough to put people to death, so it should be enough for everything else.

At least that requires unanimous decisions vs civil cases where it just has to be the majority.

Re: Benzene detected in many sunscreen products

#168

A friend of mine developed a shit free sunscreen. It’s pretty good: https://new-layer.com/collections/sunscreen

I’d love for an oil free sunscreen - I have an OCD-ish type tendency where I can’t stand to have anything oily on my skin, especially my face or hands.

I take some sun protective supplements instead, which work well enough where I don’t get significantly burned from working outside all day.

Re: Benzene detected in many sunscreen products

#169
post #28

Neutrogena is owned by Johnson and Johnson - which just payed out on a case relating to cancer from baby-powders [1]. Combined with Neutrogena being more or less _very high_ in benezine content and J&J having a very deep suite of cancer treatment drugs [2]... This seems like a horrific story of a self-fulfilling product pipeline. I know they're a giant organization and suggesting conspiracy is a bit insane but I can'…

> Johnson and Johnson - which just payed out on a case relating to cancer from baby-powders I asked this question in another post and did not get a reply. The US links sited state no evidence for talc causing cancer. A search of the NHS website also suggests no clear evidence [1]. Cancer Research (a respected UK charity) give a layman's summary (albeit focusing on ovarian cancer), stating no clear evidence and pointi…

Talc is a mineral in clay mined from underground deposits. It’s the softest mineral known to man and that makes it useful in a wide range of consumer and industrial products. Asbestos is also found underground, and veins of it can often be found in talc deposits, leading to a risk of cross-contamination, geologists say.

Full article here: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/14/business/talc-asbestos-po...

Re: Benzene detected in many sunscreen products

#170

I don't understand why people are so eager to slather chemicals on their skin, when we evolved with the sun and it's not hard for most people to avoid sun burn. You just have get sun exposure on a somewhat regular basis (healthy to do anyway) and acclimate between seasons (ie, don't go abruptly from no sun to all the sun).

"It's not hard for most people to avoid sun burn. You just have get sun exposure on a somewhat regular basis ..."

Or, even simpler, and less controversial:

Just buy some super lightweight, long sleeved shirts ... like capilene zero or equivalent. And put on a sun hat.

Problem solved.

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