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2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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post #144

I hope the ability to use your EV battery to backup your house power becomes an expected capability in the future. Glad Ford included it. Too bad Tesla backed away from it, i’m guessing due to their powerwall business.

i wonder how long a car could possibly power a house

Depends if you need heating/cooling. Otherwise 500W would cover lights, fridge, TV. So 100kW battery, 200 hours.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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post #108

It's great to see the best selling vehicle in the US be zero emissions. It's wonderful. But this truck will be very heavy, very tall, and very fast. Drivers are already the leading killers of children, and more and more people are being killed while walking and cycling. I'm very worried about the effect of making this vehicle even faster and heavier. Hopefully reduced deaths from pollution offset this.

Trucks very much have a place in society. Farmers, construction workers, and some other areas definitely need them. The trend that they need to be an everyday vehicle for anyone is something that should be looked at. What is the psychology and intentional planning that's caused this shift? What subtle population engineering has lead to this without people realizing it?

YMMV--but, in my experience, a single user multiple vehicles in the US can be pretty tough (at least, going from 1 to 2; it seems a lot easier when you go from 2 to 3). I am looking at a new, single vehicle, and this electric F-150 might be it--because I need to be able to carry plywood sheets and my Hyundai subcompact isn't gonna cut it.

I can't speak to the more general, aspirational subculture to which you refer, but the aggravation of multiple vehicles is in some ways the first stop on this tour.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Folks I know that have owned Ford vehicles in the past few years have done nothing but complain about issues with electrical subsystem and accessory breakdown. I'd be very wary of buying a Ford period, much less one that relies entirely on electricity to move. Not FUD, as I have no dog in the fight and personally don't care if anyone else buys one, but its a make of automobile I avoid.

I know you are heavily downvoted, and my experience is anecdotal, but I proudly bought a Ford Fusion sedan in 2010 (my first "new" car) and I have had nothing but trouble with its electrical systems. It burns out lights every year or other year. It even managed to melt the receptacle for one of the front headlights at one point in time. It eats through car batteries (I'm on battery number 5 in 11 years of ownership) and has had a ton more maintenance costs compared to my 2008 Toyota Sienna that I bought used and has literally had no unplanned maintenance issues.

I'm really happy to see Ford step up in the EV field. The Mach-E looks fantastic, as does the F-150. I have no ill-will towards them and I want them to succeed. But there just isn't anyway I can get over the sour taste in my mouth from owning my Ford Fusion and it is hard to take a leap of faith with them when they are new at the EV game.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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post #108

It's great to see the best selling vehicle in the US be zero emissions. It's wonderful. But this truck will be very heavy, very tall, and very fast. Drivers are already the leading killers of children, and more and more people are being killed while walking and cycling. I'm very worried about the effect of making this vehicle even faster and heavier. Hopefully reduced deaths from pollution offset this.

Trucks very much have a place in society. Farmers, construction workers, and some other areas definitely need them. The trend that they need to be an everyday vehicle for anyone is something that should be looked at. What is the psychology and intentional planning that's caused this shift? What subtle population engineering has lead to this without people realizing it?

It’s a vehicle, not a mental disorder. Some people just want to be able to occasionally tow a boat or haul some furniture without needing to rent a truck.

I think the attitude of “you don’t need a truck unless you’re a blue collar worker” is pretty elitist and ignorant, honestly. As if the decision to buy a truck is somehow invalid because white collar workers don’t see the need for one.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Payload capacity is lower then I'd like to see (tops out at 900kg I think?). So still short of the something you could get a bulka-bag dropped on at a distributor and just drive home with.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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post #23

I have no idea if this’ll be lightning or a lead balloon, because a significant amount of pickup truck buyers do it for the machismo. Which sounds like some city-slicker talking down to the cheap seats, except, I grew up in a town named Farmington. (Go Farmers.) I know pickups. I know the people who drive pickups. My dad sneers at fancy new pickups because he used to shove a good 700 pounds of mink pelts in a pickup,…

That's the price of the one you can't buy though, commercial version

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

#167

It's great to see the best selling vehicle in the US be zero emissions. It's wonderful. But this truck will be very heavy, very tall, and very fast. Drivers are already the leading killers of children, and more and more people are being killed while walking and cycling. I'm very worried about the effect of making this vehicle even faster and heavier. Hopefully reduced deaths from pollution offset this.

Now the interesting thing will what fraction of F-150 sales will be electric and how that fraction changes over the next several years.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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It's great to see the best selling vehicle in the US be zero emissions. It's wonderful. But this truck will be very heavy, very tall, and very fast. Drivers are already the leading killers of children, and more and more people are being killed while walking and cycling. I'm very worried about the effect of making this vehicle even faster and heavier. Hopefully reduced deaths from pollution offset this.

>Drivers are already the leading killers of children, and more and more people are being killed while walking and cycling. I think more worrisome is the center console - pedestrian deaths had been going down for 20 years until smartphones became widespread and we've had increases every year since.

I ride a motorcycle, and it seems like 30% of the drivers I see on the road have their phones out.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This interface is already in production in the electric mustang. The buttons are all touchscreen, with the exception of the physical center wheel which is embedded in a hole in the screen. The photo on this article may be helpful: https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/02/im-obsessed-with-the-ford-...

Probably quite functional, but it looks like a tumor on top of the screen.

Ford missed a trick by not making it magnetic and easily removable.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I take it you've never had to: 1. Take a bunch of trash/old furniture/whatever to the dump 2. Move furniture 3. Pick up materials for a home renovation like 16 foot long baseboards, drywall, a few dozen boxes of laminate flooring, etc. (no need to be a professional construction contractor here) 4. Tow a camping trailer 5. Much, much more I'm literally using my truck tonight to pick up ~500 square feet of flooring mat…

> saving a bundle in shipping costs on new kitchen cabinets Both Lowes and Home Depot offer free delivery for orders over $45. I've also done several home improvement projects, and never needed to pay a dime in shipping. Are you buying directly from the manufacturer or something I'm missing here?

I'm buying from a custom builder nearby who charges for delivery
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