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On the plus side, the average level of engineers in Europe seems to be fairly high. On the negaive side, yeah, all the truly high talented people will leave because the salaries in Europe can be so laughably low. Trying to figure out how to move back to my home country now, but short of director level positions, there’s just nothing with a comparable salary range.
I would argue against the statement that all 'truly high talented people' (whatever that may mean) will leave Europe because the salaries are too low. At least in Academia I know plenty of smart people happily working away in Europe. I suppose it may well be different outside of academia, but not every (smart/talented) person in the world has a high salary as their #1 priority. To me, and to many of my friends/acquai…
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I'm always curious when I hear HN opine on salary levels. Now I understand that in SF / at certain FAANG locations you can expect to make far in excess of 80-100k, and that exerts a competitive pressure in the job market - while also being balanced to some extend by extreme CoL. But I always wonder just how small that bubble is and what the trade-offs really are. In essentially all of Central Europe except perhaps, s…
The creation of the EU created a situation where supply increased which meant salaries were not going to rise in the richer EU countries. The free college, health care, services is the reason for the taxes. We will see salaries in the UK increase over Germany. Lower salaries make it easier for businesses to compete.
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And you have zero moral qualms about this behavior at all?
Why would I? I'm employed at-will. I'm good with the arrangement. My employer is too. Win-win.
If you think they would react negatively, then wouldn’t you concede that there is an element of dishonesty here?
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Twitter says "This is not available to you." Was this deleted, or does Twitter just not let the public see anything at all anymore?
Twitter has about a 50% chance of telling me that every time I follow a link there. Hit f5 a few times, maybe a ctrl+f5 and you'll probably get there.
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What welfare? I'm employed at-will and my performance is reviewed yearly.
You're on bigcorp welfare and you do as little work as required to not lose your benefits.
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Why would I? I'm employed at-will. I'm good with the arrangement. My employer is too. Win-win.
I wonder how your employer would feel if they saw the post I replied to? If you think they would react negatively, then wouldn’t you concede that there is an element of dishonesty here?
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On the plus side, the average level of engineers in Europe seems to be fairly high. On the negaive side, yeah, all the truly high talented people will leave because the salaries in Europe can be so laughably low. Trying to figure out how to move back to my home country now, but short of director level positions, there’s just nothing with a comparable salary range.
Just to let you know. I am a French developer, making around ~45k€. While I won't pretend to be "truly high talented", I am convinced that by moving to the US and I could double that. But... I don't want to. I live in Southern France, which is a nice place (with good food). I have enough money to do almost whatever I want and have savings. I have 7 to 8 weeks/year of paid leave, which I can use pretty much when I wan…
Salary are insane here in the US. Like: not following sane guidelines.
I’m currently at times 5 what I would earn back home. I don’t think it’s gonna stop. Every job is a solid 20% increase.
As soon as I can, I’m still gonna go back to civilisation. Auvergne, here I come.
They are just pushing me out of the workforce earlier by giving me more money. Also: what is your fucking problem with vacations?
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Just to let you know. I am a French developer, making around ~45k€. While I won't pretend to be "truly high talented", I am convinced that by moving to the US and I could double that. But... I don't want to. I live in Southern France, which is a nice place (with good food). I have enough money to do almost whatever I want and have savings. I have 7 to 8 weeks/year of paid leave, which I can use pretty much when I wan…
It's not black and white. I'm working remotely in New Zealand making more than 45k euros with 1 YOE and my company seems to care a lot about W/L balance. I'm sure there are also office-based US companies with good pay and W/L balance.
Let’s just start by saying that back home, every worker has 5 week of pays vacation by law.
Most qualify worker get 6 , and it’s not uncommon to go in the 7 or 8 with seniority.
Just with that simple fact the « work life balance » a US company has to offer is kinda cute compared to what I would get automatically.
Then come childcare, education and healthcare. Being childless in the US is fine, but when you see the cost of a child you understand the large salaries.
Something I still don’t get after 10 years is how poor people afford kids in this country.
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108k for a fresh grad? That's just not accurate. The Greater NYC area will net an entry level dev 60-75k max in most cases. 108k is much closer to the average, taking into account highly experienced outliers. National average of entry level dev salaries for reference: https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Entry-Level-Software-D...
Taking a glance at levels.fyi, in NYC for people with one year of experience there isn't a single entry from Google below $150k. Similar for Amazon.