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Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by ryandrake » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 7:47 PM UTC

dmoy wrote: post #13

seattle_spring wrote: post #11

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> Poole lasted just five years at Google, which CNBC notes is usually just long enough for any employee's shares attached to hiring to vest They make it sound like he barely managed to get any stock. That's like saying, "person worked at X for 1 year, just long enough to get 1 year's salary." Well, yeah, but if they left in 11 months they'd get 11 months salary. It's not like if Poole left at 1 year or 4 years or any…

Also it doesn't really match with reality, since they'd usually get refresh grants and have a rolling four year window at all times. The article sounds like the reporter heard a soundbyte about google's typical four year vesting period, and then did zero actual research into what that means.

I don't know--I've heard a lot of people here noting the "4 year cliff" at most tech companies, not just Google. Not all companies give refreshes, and of those that do, it's usually not enough to make up for the initial grant going away.

I left my last job pretty much on the day of my 4 year anniversary because I'd otherwise be taking a 25% comp hit in year 5. It's definitely a thing.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by sudosysgen » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 7:48 PM UTC

okareaman wrote: post #153

pcbro141 wrote: post #136

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We're talking about this site? (NSFW): https://boards.4chan.org/pol Looks more like an international white supremacist convention than United Nations to me. And I'm not saying that just because they love using the n-word so much, but that is one of the reasons. Most posts on there don't seem to be from a diverse audience. They mostly seem to be from the perspective of a young racist white male audience, which is a ve…

That's partly true but I like to know what that group is thinking. As bad as it is, I don't detect any energy towards violent overthrow of the US Govt as was expressed by Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City. Maybe elsewhere, but not on 4chan/pol/ There are a lot of people on 4chan from non-European countries. I've seen vile anti-semitism expressed by someone with a Saudi flag. It's not uncommon.

There is a lot of energy at violently overthrowing the US Government. That sentiment is expressed every time you hear the word "ZOG" or "Golem". It takes a while to parse through it.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by mschuster91 » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 7:48 PM UTC

pcbro141 wrote: post #157

okareaman wrote: post #77

I've spent a fair amount of time on 4chan/pol/ for over a decade and my opinion is moot is a decent guy who sold it after he tried to reign in GamerGate and was loudly criticized on the site for it. I don't think Google would have hired him if it weren't for that redeeming quality. I'm fascinated by 4chan because it is a kind of underground United Nations. It's anonymous so people around the world can express themsel…

In order list of threads from browsing /pol/ for people who want to know how 'diverse' it is without visiting: - Anti-vax - Anti-gay parents - Goose - Ben Shapiro praise thread with a dash of anti-semitism and a whole lot of "i hope all ni**rs die" - Praising George Floyd mural vandalism - Anti-transgender - Praising white nationalism/white ethnostate - Praising 'national rape day' - Anti-Islam - Anti-race mixing - I…

There were better days, many years ago... eventually all not heavily moderated communities will suffer their version of Eternal September.

Communities with no moderation at all sans removing child porn and copyrighted content (to avoid getting v8 by the feds) will always be overtaken sooner or later by the content you just listed because this sort of stuff gets driven out of communities that care about at least some decency. The exception proving the rule is r/worldpolitics, which has no rules per se but there's enough porn to drown out hate speech.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by batch12 » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 7:49 PM UTC

edrxty wrote: post #143

batch12 wrote: post #52

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I built this [1] and took it down when I quickly realized I would not have the time or desire to devote to keeping it going. Edit- it had live (think chat room) but threaded comments and was anonymous (temporary, randomized identites) I haven't had the heart to completely decommission it yet so I've stood it back up so you can see what I am talking about . [1] https://blahalla.com

That name is beautiful

Thank you- names are the thing I am worst at I think.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by batch12 » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 7:50 PM UTC

ALittleLight wrote: post #141

batch12 wrote: post #52

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I built this [1] and took it down when I quickly realized I would not have the time or desire to devote to keeping it going. Edit- it had live (think chat room) but threaded comments and was anonymous (temporary, randomized identites) I haven't had the heart to completely decommission it yet so I've stood it back up so you can see what I am talking about . [1] https://blahalla.com

This looks pretty neat. Two suggestions: show the room list on the home page and put the about stuff somewhere else. People will figure out what the site is by seeing or interacting and the faster they can the better. Second, names could be more distinct. The fact they all begin with the prefix "user" (from what I saw) is redundant. Could you mix and match from a short-words list to create unique and memorable names?…

Good ideas and both easy to implement. Thanks for the feedback

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by hnbad » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 7:50 PM UTC

pcbro141 wrote: post #136

okareaman wrote: post #77

I've spent a fair amount of time on 4chan/pol/ for over a decade and my opinion is moot is a decent guy who sold it after he tried to reign in GamerGate and was loudly criticized on the site for it. I don't think Google would have hired him if it weren't for that redeeming quality. I'm fascinated by 4chan because it is a kind of underground United Nations. It's anonymous so people around the world can express themsel…

We're talking about this site? (NSFW): https://boards.4chan.org/pol Looks more like an international white supremacist convention than United Nations to me. And I'm not saying that just because they love using the n-word so much, but that is one of the reasons. Most posts on there don't seem to be from a diverse audience. They mostly seem to be from the perspective of a young racist white male audience, which is a ve…

I can only recommend watching Innuendo Studios' _Alt-Right Playbook_ series for a deeper understanding of the dynamics, but if you don't have the time I'd at least recommend watching this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMabpBvtXr4

All of 4chan, but especially /b/, is built around "haha just kidding ... unless", ridiculing people for getting offended while "trolling" with the most nefarious opinions and defending them "as a joke". This escalated with /pol/ which at some point became mask-off unironically white supremacist.

This is not just about 4chan being too white and too male and everybody self-identifying as NEET (whether as a joke or in earnest). The perpetual "ironic" regurgitation of racist, misogynist and anti-Semitic talking points attracted Nazis because it allowed them to hide in plain sight and they very successfully used it as part of their pipeline by getting people to repeat their jokes until they stopped laughing.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by causality0 » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 7:53 PM UTC

zumu wrote: post #158

ericbarrett wrote: post #21

Chris Poole visited the Facebook campus in 2011, while he was still running 4chan, for an hour-long talk and some questions. About thirty engineers attended. The Anonymous hacks had been all over the news for the last year or so, so a couple of jokers showed up in Guy Fawkes masks, and kept them on for the whole thing. During the Q&A, Poole answered a question from one of the masked employees. After his answer, he as…

> Not surprised he lasted so long at Google. Is it hard to 'last' at google? I have never gotten that impression.

The median tenure of a Google employee is 1.1 years.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by sudosysgen » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 7:54 PM UTC

bruiseralmighty wrote: post #107

okareaman wrote: post #77

I've spent a fair amount of time on 4chan/pol/ for over a decade and my opinion is moot is a decent guy who sold it after he tried to reign in GamerGate and was loudly criticized on the site for it. I don't think Google would have hired him if it weren't for that redeeming quality. I'm fascinated by 4chan because it is a kind of underground United Nations. It's anonymous so people around the world can express themsel…

Started as a /b/tard circa '08 and now read mostly /pol/ and /lit/ because their threads most often follow an argument to its completion. This makes for good reading IMO. Still go back to /b/ occasionally although the flavor of that board has shifted to a more twitter-like direction that I do not favor. It remains one of the few places online where I can read shitposts with actual artistic merit. Some Facebook groups…

Wait, have you ever had an argument go to completion on /pol/?

I almost never have. On /lit/, maybe, but on /pol/ either you get no actual engagement, all the serious replies are drowned by spam and the thread necros, or one of the argumentators when called out simply stops replying or switches to shitposting.

You can sometimes have a good argument to completion, but it's very rare. Unless the argument is something the 4chan hive finds uncontroversial or is empathetic to.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by the_benno » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 7:54 PM UTC

andyxor wrote: post #159

pcbro141 wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In order list of threads from browsing /pol/ for people who want to know how 'diverse' it is without visiting: - Anti-vax - Anti-gay parents - Goose - Ben Shapiro praise thread with a dash of anti-semitism and a whole lot of "i hope all ni**rs die" - Praising George Floyd mural vandalism - Anti-transgender - Praising white nationalism/white ethnostate - Praising 'national rape day' - Anti-Islam - Anti-race mixing - I…

/pol is awesome what are you talking about it has nothing to do with race, calling George Floyd an overdosed junkie is just stating the facts.

Cops aren't allowed to murder people on sight -- "junkie" or otherwise. Never understood why people seem to think this is a compelling argument.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by iitqkzbjak » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 7:55 PM UTC

pcbro141 wrote: post #157

okareaman wrote: post #77

I've spent a fair amount of time on 4chan/pol/ for over a decade and my opinion is moot is a decent guy who sold it after he tried to reign in GamerGate and was loudly criticized on the site for it. I don't think Google would have hired him if it weren't for that redeeming quality. I'm fascinated by 4chan because it is a kind of underground United Nations. It's anonymous so people around the world can express themsel…

In order list of threads from browsing /pol/ for people who want to know how 'diverse' it is without visiting: - Anti-vax - Anti-gay parents - Goose - Ben Shapiro praise thread with a dash of anti-semitism and a whole lot of "i hope all ni**rs die" - Praising George Floyd mural vandalism - Anti-transgender - Praising white nationalism/white ethnostate - Praising 'national rape day' - Anti-Islam - Anti-race mixing - I…

Racism, gore, pedos, endless endless pornography...

Yet when people mention that they visit 4chan, they talk about the 'very clever people posting there'. It's like mentioning that you regularly go paddling in your local river in order to collect tiny nuggets of gold, without mentioning that your local river is a flow of excrement, nuclear waste, and malignant psychopaths.