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Twilio blocked our account and with it hundreds of our customers [resolved]

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Re: Twilio blocked our account and with it hundreds of our customers [resolved]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It's incredibly hard to have multiple vendors if you're using specific or advanced functionality, and if you're hosting a failover yourself then you might as well just use that instead. I'm not suggesting any specific solution and I didn't even suggest they run their own infrastructure. There are good reasons to outsource these kinds of operations. But what happened was the company got the rug pulled underneath thei…

You're not understanding because there is no resistance. This was the risk.

Again, let's say Twilio is the only supplier that could have provided this service for them, they still need to understand what risks that entails and how to mitigate them.

What happened in this situation is that Twilio for one reason or another decided to block access to their service, ostensibly halting their business. OK. That's not good. You know what made it worse? The CEO realizing that they don't have any line of communication to Twilio and that Twilio had shit tech support and therefore he had to frantically trawl Twitter and HN and Reddit and emailing Jeff Lawson (Twilio) CEO. Are you telling me they couldn't prevent this? You sure there isn't an Account Manager assigned to their account? Twilio holds conferences, there are plenty of opportunities to forge some relationship with someone at Twilio so you could at least backchannel issues like this (in fact, some Twilio dev here at HN noticed this and escalated it). By the way, Twilio is not the only telephony provider. If Twilio has shit support, OP can find another critical supplier, maybe a smaller or a more expensive vendor that is more responsive.

How about this: I looked through OPs comment history and he mentioned that their support numbers is provided by their service (i.e. they dogfood their product). Is that not a risk? If they are down, or Twilio is down, their customers can't reach a human either.

Very few of us control our circumstances, but we can certainly control our response to them. Outsourcing isn't the problem here. It has benefits and detriments. Lack of planning, and foresight is the issue here. This could have been a 10 minute outage, instead of a full day outage.

Re: Twilio blocked our account and with it hundreds of our customers [resolved]

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Maybe time for a new HN headline convention, like: Tell FAANG: You blocked me, again FAANG Support: Important please call back ASAP

Could this be productised somehow? Would an investor be willing to invest in my startup which effectively un-blocks small companies from larger ones? It would do the leg work to compile the necessary information before contacting a real human. I'll call it Support As A Service.

Tell HN: SupportaaS not answering tickets.

Re: Twilio blocked our account and with it hundreds of our customers [resolved]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could this be productised somehow? Would an investor be willing to invest in my startup which effectively un-blocks small companies from larger ones? It would do the leg work to compile the necessary information before contacting a real human. I'll call it Support As A Service.

Tell HN: SupportaaS not answering tickets.

It's supportAaS all the way down!

Re: Twilio blocked our account and with it hundreds of our customers [resolved]

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Port your phone numbers out ASAP, you can jump to Teli or BulkVS and pay quite a bit less with much broader numbering inventory available.

Even if we wanted to do this, this process can take days and sometimes even weeks.

A simple port request (1 phone number) has to be resolved within 24 hours, and complex port requests have similarly short SLAs.

The FCC has defined these SLAs and if you ever have a losing provider that is close to breaking the SLA on a port request, search for the providers local number portability escalation list and call each contact until resolved.

Re: Twilio blocked our account and with it hundreds of our customers [resolved]

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Port your phone numbers out ASAP, you can jump to Teli or BulkVS and pay quite a bit less with much broader numbering inventory available.

thanks for those 2 providers. will also check them out. do you know (beside voxbone) some further international DID providers?

Prior to Voxbone joining Bandwidth.com they were a provider we had chosen to avoid.

Voxbeam and Anveo Direct are solid choices for international DIDs.

Bandwidth.com has a poor reputation FYI, they pissed off a few Public Utility Commissions and were blacklisted from getting new phone numbers in some states.

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