OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana

Post by sdesol » Mon, Apr 12, 2021, 7:59 PM UTC

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What may hurt them though, is the number of customers that currently feel things are currently "good enough". I don't know what their sales engagement looks like, so I'm not sure if this will really hurt them or not.

Perhaps! My money is on Elastic including an approximate nearest neighbor search in 8.0 which uses the new HNSW feature in Lucene 9, which is going to be hard to do in a distributed capacity and will be a significant feature if they can pull it off. PS - I've never seen gitsense before and it's really cool. I especially like the focus quadrant!

Post by conroy » Mon, Apr 12, 2021, 8:02 PM UTC

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> Makes me wonder what these are for (copyright transfer) and why they decided it’s not needed. It also makes me wonder if this sort of thing has ever been taken/tested in court or if it’s paranoid friction with little value add. Some companies/projects might use them purely to avoid possible future legal headaches (I think GNU does this), and I'm not sure to what degree that has actually been tested, but they can al…

Indeed that is likely but I wonder why didn't they at least require a Developer's Cerificate of Origin [0] that kernel.org uses. This is really lightweight (just append one line to git commit message) and supposedly provides a minimum legal base for the change. IANAL. [0]: https://blog.chef.io/introducing-developer-certificate-of-or...

Post by ForHackernews » Mon, Apr 12, 2021, 8:07 PM UTC

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> But for ElasticSearch you’re stuck with them. I am a bit at a loss about that statement, you can run Elasticsearch on your on infrastructure

Quoting the comment you're replying to: > If OpenSearch is truely open then in theory you can find another provider Those are the key words. With an open source solution someone else can offer a turn-key solution that benefits from economies of scale.

Post by unclad5968 » Mon, Apr 12, 2021, 8:07 PM UTC

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One thing which surprised me: Elastic has a market capitalization of ~$11B. I think that changes some of the more floaty ethical concerns. This is not a David vs Goliath situation. This is Goliath vs Super-Goliath. At this point, I'm much less interested in the drama of which mega-corp is screwing over the other. I'm more interested in: how does it affect me? When the titans are done trampling over the rest of us, wh…

Uhmmm I’m pretty sure David vs Goliath is talking about scale between competition. Saying that $11B is Goliath just because you’re sitting at $1M doesn’t mean they’re not in a crazy mismatched fight against a $2T company. In the same way you could be in a David vs Goliath situation yourself if you with $1M in wealth tried to sue someone with $25K of wealth. Everything is relative. Doesn’t mean it’s not a crazy unfair…

Post by yandie » Mon, Apr 12, 2021, 8:09 PM UTC

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You're asserting that they have forked OSS and then not provided back the source code for their own improvements. I guess we can check their github repos to see if that's the case.

As far as I know DocumentDB is closed source. Btw: I can name zero OSS projects from Amazon and this is not the same for Microsoft (VScode, TS) and FB (React, Jest).