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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by simfree » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 9:52 PM UTC

atomicnumber3 wrote: post #89

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

I just recently (few months ago) switched over to FF from Chrom(e|ium). What pushed me was Google, on short notice, revoking all Sync API keys from all Linux distros, and I'll be damned if I'm going to use software that's as important as my browser from a source like the AUR. The AUR is great mind you, and for a small number of things I accept the risks and burdens that come with using it (auditing the PKGBUILDs on u…

From whar I have experienced Chrome and Chromium act differently FYI. I would discourage lumping them as one in the same.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by quesera » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 9:53 PM UTC

FalconSensei wrote: post #147

jabroni_salad wrote: post #99

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There is also no way to rearrange your containers aside from deleting them and making new ones in the desired order. Since I am using this for o365 administration it is a little annoying that I can't keep them in alphabetical order to find them easily.

This is something that I don't like about firefox. They have a ton of cool stuff, but I feel that they are always lacking a few things. What I always give as an example, is how to add custom searches (Amazon, Reddit, HN, etc), you save the query url and add a keyword. Works very well to type `rdt something` and have the results. But: there's no option in the menu to see all keywords/search engines you have registered…

My workaround for this is to title the bookmark, e.g. "kw:rdt Page Title".

Imperfect, but the convenience is worthwhile for the dozen-or-so keyword searches I use.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by pablodavila » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 9:54 PM UTC

jdfellow wrote: post #151

catlifeonmars wrote: post #132

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Privacy considerations aside, containers are great for using multiple AWS accounts simultaneously. Since we use an AWS account as a deployment container, it’s typical to have 10s of different accounts you have to jump between and it’s just not possible to effectively do ops with another browser.

This is honestly a killer feature! I use Temporary Containers and load the AWS console in a fresh container automatically, making it very easy to switch between accounts and have multiple open at once. (Caveat emptor: be sure which account you're using at any given time!)

It really is. I think this is one of the features they (Mozilla) spend some more resources into. It's really unique and could drive non-tech savvy users to it.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by satysin » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 9:54 PM UTC

coldpie wrote: post #34

ub99 wrote: post #11

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I use AdGuard pro on an iPhone and generally don’t see any ads at all in Safari. I believe this app will block ads in any iOS browser.

I'd like to switch to iPhone, but the lack of real Firefox + uBO is what keeps me from doing it. It's good to know there are some options there, thanks for the pointer.

I was much like you but I can say that AdGuard for Safari on iOS is pretty decent. Sure it isn't as flexible as Firefox+uBO on Android but it does a fine job at blocking ads and doesn't require any tweaking.

The biggest benefit is that as every web view on iOS is Safari it means you get content blocking in all apps that use a web view (providing they don't disable it which I'm sure some do but I don't know of any that actually do it). E.g. in the third-party reddit app Apollo any website you load within the app also has all ads blocked.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by maccam94 » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 9:54 PM UTC

atomicnumber3 wrote: post #89

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

I just recently (few months ago) switched over to FF from Chrom(e|ium). What pushed me was Google, on short notice, revoking all Sync API keys from all Linux distros, and I'll be damned if I'm going to use software that's as important as my browser from a source like the AUR. The AUR is great mind you, and for a small number of things I accept the risks and burdens that come with using it (auditing the PKGBUILDs on u…

Firefox on iOS isn't really Firefox, it's Webkit with a Firefox skin (because Apple won't allow any other web engines on iOS).

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by sandeepbhat » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 9:54 PM UTC

Really nice post!! I almost got confused with uBlox at the start.

https://www.u-blox.com/en

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by estaseuropano » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 9:55 PM UTC

xoa wrote: post #70

Wow, what an awesome dive into some of the technical aspects behind one of my favorite tools for using the web. And I do think of it that way these days, it's fairly stunning on some sites to switch off all the block and see how they become genuinely unbrowsable. I remember seeing Gorhill discuss a few times over the years some of the reqs for uBO during certain times (like why it could no longer work with Safari fol…

I guess the issue with proxying is that the ad provider has less control/data and can't be sure whether views are genuine.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by pmontra » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 9:57 PM UTC

jdubb wrote: post #159

ineptech wrote: post #148

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Same experience here! The only problem I have is that the Android search bar seems to ignore the default Browser setting, but avoiding it (opening FF rather than using the search bar widget) is a small price to pay for avoiding ads so effectively.

Another option you have is to put the firefox search widget above you google search widget in your home screen. It's a bit ridiculous that the Google search bar can't be removed, but this is second best.

I did remove the Google search bar from all my phones. An old and defunct Samsung Galaxy S2, a Sony Xperia X Compact (Android 8) and a Samsung A40 (Android 11).

Which phone / OS do you use?

Btw, to search for something I open Firefox and type in the URL bar.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by sfink » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 9:57 PM UTC

whatshisface wrote: post #25

bilekas wrote: post #22

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Firefox does seem to have really improved over the last few iterations, performance also when large numbers of tabs open. I cant find the link right now, but there was a nice timings done where Chrome was using less CPU at lower tab counts, but when it increased count, the CPU utilization was considerably higher than FF. I'll be giving it a fair shake for a few months.

Firefox recently rolled out an update that broke up the big GC passes into small GC passes. That contributed to a huge improvement in responsiveness.

That sounds great. But as someone who works on the Firefox GC team, I gotta say: what?

Or more specifically, I'm wondering what change you could be referring to. We've had incremental GC for many years now, which does exactly what you describe. It's true that we keep splitting up more of the uninterruptible pieces into smaller chunks, but I don't recall any major change there recently. (I'm not very good at marketing, am I?)

And according to telemetry, the incremental slices have been working quite well for most people, at least within the last dozen releases or so. We have a budget, and it's rare that we go over it. Not that I fully trust telemetry; if you have counterexamples please file a bug. (I'd love to have a nice set of scenarios that are problematic for the GC. Our telemetry errs strongly on the side of privacy, as it should, so I can't get URLs automatically.)

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by AndrewKemendo » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 9:57 PM UTC

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

I've been on Firefox since I switched away from Opera year and years ago and I don't know any technical reason I would use any other browser - not even mentioning the other spyware reasons.

What technically do you find missing in FF?