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That's not equivalent. An equivalent example would be a person who makes a large amount of money in their 20s, but spends the majority of it on things that could conceivably appreciate, such that their income artificially represents a loss. Then all of a sudden, whatever they spent money on becomes extremely profitable in their mid 30s. Someone doing that will normally do it within the confines of an LLC by conventio…
> That's not equivalent. An equivalent example would be a person who makes a large amount of money in their 20s, but spends the majority of it on things that could conceivably appreciate, such that their income artificially represents a loss. Then all of a sudden, whatever they spent money on becomes extremely profitable in their mid 30s. Like someone getting a $150k student loan to go to college and/or post-college…
Netflix Made Record Profits in 2020, Paid a Tax Rate of Less Than 1 Percent
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> Human beings cannot do the equivalent. Spend the entirety of your 20s making very little money because you are investing in growth That’s not really an equivalent, though. These companies aren’t simply giving up opportunity cost. They’re spending real money on real R&D expenditures. In software, that R&D expenditure is largely wages for developers like us. The tax code gives companies benefits for spending this R&D…
That doctor is spending real money on attending medical school, which pays professors. It is an equivalent.
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Why should there be a cap on carrying forward losses? There’s no cap on individuals carrying forward capital losses.
Why should there be a cap and income phaseout on student loan interest deductions?
When you want to tax high-income people at a higher rate, have the courage and forthrightness to simply raise their rate; don't do it via the backdoor complexity of phaseouts.
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#164Netflix recorded a worldwide income tax accounting expense of about 13.7% last year ($438M on $3.2B of Net Income). It also paid cash taxes of $292M (cash taxes differ from accounting taxes because of timing issues - just like revenue is not the same as cash-in). A lot of growing companies have US taxes that are quite low because they lose money for a long time while they're investing in growth. When they finally bec…
I wonder what would happen if an entirely new approach to taxation were tested. A jury of 12 random people would inspect a companies accounts, assets etc and decide if the tax paid is "fair". The jury would have no training in tax matters, but would be presented documents produced by the government and the company to argue their cases. If the tax paid is found to be unfair by the jury, the company gets nationalised w…
Re: Netflix Made Record Profits in 2020, Paid a Tax Rate of Less Than 1 Percent
#165Netflix recorded a worldwide income tax accounting expense of about 13.7% last year ($438M on $3.2B of Net Income). It also paid cash taxes of $292M (cash taxes differ from accounting taxes because of timing issues - just like revenue is not the same as cash-in). A lot of growing companies have US taxes that are quite low because they lose money for a long time while they're investing in growth. When they finally bec…
> A lot of growing companies have US taxes that are quite low because they lose money for a long time while they're investing in growth. When they finally become profitable, they're allowed to roll forward those losses (within limits) to offset their profits. Human beings cannot do the equivalent. Spend the entirety of your 20s making very little money because you are investing in growth and then make $800k as an ort…
Please do not spread disinformation. This is some Qanon level bs.
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That's not equivalent. An equivalent example would be a person who makes a large amount of money in their 20s, but spends the majority of it on things that could conceivably appreciate, such that their income artificially represents a loss. Then all of a sudden, whatever they spent money on becomes extremely profitable in their mid 30s. Like someone getting a $150k student loan to go to college and/or post-college…
A loan isn’t a loss. A business can’t deduct that either.
+Depending on a lot of details
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It's a mechanism designed to reduce economic inequality Income inequality. Totally different thing; really wealthy people can play all sorts of games with income, so it’s not relevant to them. And that’s the way they like this debate framed: ignore their enormous piles of wealth and instead focus on the earnings distribution of ordinary people. If anything, it just stops you getting anywhere near to joining their ran…
Really wealthy people are probably not paying much income taxes to begin with
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The purpose is to equalize the amount of tax that companies pay. Consider the following example: Assuming a tax rate of 30%, Company A has net income (profit) of $100 in year 1 and $100 in year two pays $60 in tax on a total profit of $200. Company B has a net loss of $100 in year 1 and net income of $300 ni year 2 has a total profit still of $200. Assuming loss carryforwards are allowed, Company B pays $60 in tax st…
I understand why the rule exists. What I don’t understand is why a similar rule doesn’t exist for people. Here’s another example of where it could help. Take two men, one earns $75k/year (let’s say inflation adjusted) for thirty years as a bus driver. The other plays in the NFL for 1 year makes $2MM and thereafter only makes $250k over the next twenty five years. They’ve made the same amount of money over their lifet…
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That doctor is spending real money on attending medical school, which pays professors. It is an equivalent.
Can you deduct the interest paid on student loans in subsequent years? I think this is possible in some countries (iirc Belgium always deducting certain interest payments for personal taxes)
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> Progressive tax ensures that person from poor background will stay poor. How so? With progressive tax there is no point at which you make less money than if you had less income.
If you cross a threshold from 20% to 40%, for every £1000 made over that threshold you pay £400 instead of £200. Sure you are still making more money, but suddenly you don't have that £200 that you could save or invest.
Your suggestion above that low income workers are exempt from taxes, is a description of a progressive tax.
I’m not really sure I understand what you’re suggesting should be done.