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Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I'd love to replace my thinkpad. But I need/want things that seem unavailable. * trackpoint + buttons (can be without touchpad, disabled anyway) * full keyboard * strong durable * removable battery * 4k screen * ecc 64-128gb * rj45 * lots of ports * hardware switches to disable: networking, camera, mic,.. Thinkpad's are move farther away each year. I hope some company will fill the gap.

This may interest you: https://www.xyte.ch/ I have a thinkpad x2100 and it is a great laptop.

Thank you for this. I look at every System76 announcement dreaming of this screen size, this keyboard, this trackpad.

I am glad I am not the only one.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I can't speak to the 4700u or the pangolin specifically, but I can offer this perspective on PopOS/AMD: I've been using System76's PopOS with my Asus Zephyrus G14 (4800hs) as a daily driver and I really like it. (freelance/web) The battery life is comparable to Windows (on integrated graphics mode, it has graphics switching available)at 7-10 hours with 70% brightness and balanced power settings using VScode and firef…

I was considering to buy a G14, but got distracted with other stuff. Can you please share a few details on how you use it? - What kind of external webcam do you use? Does it have any problem with any video-conferencing software? - Do you access any streaming service (with DRM)? Any issues? - Any issues with drivers, returning from sleep/hybernation? Thanks!

I use it with Fedora happily, and for work I have to use Zoom daily. I did have to replace a fan with one from Aliexpress due to rattle, but haven’t had issues since.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I'm on the same boat as you: my ideal laptop would be an x220/x230 on the outside with a 1440p display and a modern CPU on the inside. I can't understand why Thinkpads are moving away from this absolutely perfect design in the name of... slickness? Why are laptops with a minimal (or non-existing) touchpad so difficult to find? Once you start using the trackpoint your wrists feel incredibly relaxed at all times. Why d…

Have you looked at the P series laptops? > Why do so few vendors offer RJ45 ports? I'm guessing that because laptops are portable machines, almost nobody ever uses the network port and if you need one, you can use an adapter with the USB port.

> Have you looked at the P series laptops?

They come close in number of ports and battery life *but* they still have an excessively big touchpad, don't have a 13 inch version and start at 1.7 kilos (which makes them less than ideal for carrying around).

But I agree they are the very nice machines and we keep a bunch of them in the lab.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I can't speak to the 4700u or the pangolin specifically, but I can offer this perspective on PopOS/AMD: I've been using System76's PopOS with my Asus Zephyrus G14 (4800hs) as a daily driver and I really like it. (freelance/web) The battery life is comparable to Windows (on integrated graphics mode, it has graphics switching available)at 7-10 hours with 70% brightness and balanced power settings using VScode and firef…

Does graphics switching in popos works without full system restart or at least without restarting X11? I didn't think there was a way to make switching graphics work in linux without either restarting X11 session or restarting the machine completely.

On related note - does external display works without nvidia GPU? A lot of manufactures have lately decided to hardwire external HDMI connection to descrete GPU and hence it has been pretty painful to use NVIDIA powered Laptops on Linux. :(

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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HDMI is less hassle. Everything comes with a HDMI port these days, but a DP port is still more of a proper full Computer Monitor(tm) feature. My work just installed a whole bunch of projectors that have HDMI and VGA as input options. I have no idea where they found them. Of course sometimes the HDMI fails due to DRM nonsense, so that's also an issue.

I think HDMI only exists because HDMI cartel keeps pushing it for patents profits. There is no real need for it because DP is much better. But since they make HDMI only equipment, we are still stuck with it. And personally, I had a lot of problems with HDMI in the past. Unlike with DP.

Theoretically some DRM content should refuse to play at full resolution on DP connected displays due to the lack of DRM on the cable. I've never tested this myself, but you often see requirements for things like Blu-Ray players that you have to be running a late model Intel chip, on a supported motherboard, on Windows 10, over HDMI to a supported monitor. Get anything wrong and you've got a 720p picture or a black box.

Edit: Behold this list of requirements. https://www.reddit.com/r/htpc/wiki/faq#wiki_what_do_i_need_f...

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I'm on the same boat as you: my ideal laptop would be an x220/x230 on the outside with a 1440p display and a modern CPU on the inside. I can't understand why Thinkpads are moving away from this absolutely perfect design in the name of... slickness? Why are laptops with a minimal (or non-existing) touchpad so difficult to find? Once you start using the trackpoint your wrists feel incredibly relaxed at all times. Why d…

Likelihood of people actually using products they buy is overestimated, I think. Lots of games on Steam has achievements for extremely simple tasks, such as launching the game for the first time or playing it for five minutes , and popularity of those is typically around 82.5% and 75% respectively among audiences for most popular titles. IOW, 17.5% of PC game enthusiasts pay for a game and immediately put it on a she…

I would like to think that there are *dozens* of us!

At least, many people in HN and most people in /r/thinkpad seem to agree! :)

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Why aren't there any bold laptop manufacturers? This is a 2021 laptop that uses USB-A primarily, a meh panel, and no particular standout design features. Why do I have to get a mac if I want actually good design? System76 should take a risk and truly make an interesting laptop. leaving the standard, boring design to the big name companies.

System76 is probably one of the least bold laptop manufacturers because they can't afford to be. As other comments have noted, much of their hardware are largely rebadged devices from other manufacturers such as Clevo, because the main selling point of System76 appears to be the software experience and hardware integration. If you want great design that matches a Mac (overall, better in some areas, worse in others),…

hmm - aren't there Eluktronics laptops (https://www.eluktronics.com/laptops/) which also uses some rebraded chasis for newest Ryzen laptops? Even if you are forced to use rebranded chasis - i think there are better options out there. The pangolin model looks pretty meh tbh.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I was/am thinkpad user also. I have migrated to desktops. They are cheap enough to have one at the office and one at home. Sure the above wont work for everybody, but if you are like me, you unpacked the laptop at home and at work each day at exactly the same space, where all the cables and extra monitors were. I used to use laptop in coffee shops and outdoors, but nowadays between phone, and tablets (wel phone and k…

The downside with this is extra effort to keep them in sync. Depending on what you do, syncing can be easy (or even trivial if you do everything remote anyway) or more annoying.

Carrying a disk on your commute is easier than carrying a laptop.
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