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Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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Daily reminder that your business/project/hobby should not depend on anything controlled by Google. Edit: Despite all their shortcomings, I wouldn't mind seeing android phone makers join force and create an independent app store.

This is why we need anti-trust action when it comes to mobile app distribution. Google and Apple have abused their duopoly in this market for over a decade, now.

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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That's unrealistic if your target is android phones. You can wax poetic about the idea of an independent app store all you want, it doesn't change the facts on the ground in the current moment.

Or you can just make a web app. Unless you are doing games or anything requiring lower-level hardware access, like a bluetooth scanner or something.

Webapps don't show up on the home screen, can't be targets of share pane actions, can't access contacts, can't send push notifications.

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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> We don't allow apps whose primary purpose is featuring or hosting objectionable [User Generated Content]. [...] your app currently only includes feature to flag inappropriate users. [...] the app must provide a user-friendly, in-app system for reporting objectionable UCG. It's user generated content. How is reporting a user functionally different from reporting content? This makes me even more driven to switch to F…

The difference is the same between malice and ignorance. A user may just be wrong about something or not quite understand something. They're not trying to deliberately cause disruption, there's no need to fault the user. Remove the content, inform the user, move on. It's only a problem is a user continues to submit reported material.

Agreed, that is an important distinction. As written, the button might discourage users from ever clicking it except in the most extreme cases or until after observing a pattern over time.

Which isn't to say that Google's actions are at all justified here. This kind of thing makes me extremely wary of continuing to do business with them.

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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f-droid doesn't have payments, Amazon is yet another faceless mega-corp that has had its fair share of sellers accusing them of various shady things. Creating a Play Store alternative is hard for many reasons: 1) finance: the more countries you operate in, the messier it becomes. International taxes are one hard mess, KYC/AML regulations differ between countries, and to top it off there is the whole "international sa…

> f-droid doesn't have payments I'm just a normal F-Droid user, but couldn't you build In-App purchases or link accounts to your website? So, register for a paid account on mygreatapp.com and use the login details in your app? I think that's what Google and Apple specifically DON'T WANT for financial reasons, but how about F-Droid?

Doesn't f-droid require all app submitted there to be open source? Kinda hard to implement in-app payment while keeping your app open.

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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post #84

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Maybe HN users, but an increasingly overwhelming percentage of the general population prefers to download an app to do something instead of using a mobile website.

Various industry surveys, like the one from comscore in 2019 suggest otherwise. IIRC it found that most American phone owners install only 1-2 new apps per year. I think they would've gone to more new websites than that.

That study doesn't imply what you suggest. Yes, most Americans install 1-2 apps per year: Facebook, Instagram and similar, and that's all they ever use. That segment of the population doesn't use the mobile web either; they spend all of their time in 1-2 walled gardens and you're not going to reach them with an app or website.

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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For anyone unaware, the name of the app is a play on a swear word. "EskomSePush" is an intentional play on the phrase "Eskom Se Poes". Eskom being the power utility that provides electricity to South Africa, and has been woefully inadequate at doing so. See here for a meaning of the word Poes in Afrikaans. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/poes#Afrikaans Wonder if Google is aware of that and has been getting lots of "re…

Herman Maritz, the author, has stated that they were overwhelmed with app users that complained to them when there were normal unplanned power outages or when Eskom deviated from the planned load shedding schedules. The chat feature was a way for user of close proximity to confirm a power outage with each other [1]. I wouldn't call it a 'comments section'.

[1] https://twitter.com/hermaritz/status/1371017176593928194

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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post #92

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>I also hate it when software won't work without a 'security' handshake. You are in for a bad time unless you go full FLOSS. The days of shareware and freedom from stupid centralized license enforcement is long dead, sadly. Don't bother bringing that up on HN though. The Upton Sinclairism "It is difficult to get someone to understand that which their paycheck fepends on them not understanding" applies. Unless of cour…

FLOSS is great but not enough. There are more and more places where you need a smartphone and an application (or else you can't use a service or it will be 100 times more time consuming) IMO all smartphones should have an unlock code. it will be printed in the box you b ought the phone, if you use that you unlock your phone and can install FLOSS apps in it. (now the Apple fanboys will try to change my mind, I will no…

> IMO all smartphones should have an unlock code

They should not be locked in the first place. GNU/Linux smartphones come to mind. (Anbox can be used for Android apps)

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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post #84

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Actually, users, for the most part, don't want to install apps.

Maybe HN users, but an increasingly overwhelming percentage of the general population prefers to download an app to do something instead of using a mobile website.

You seem to know what you are talking about, but from my personal experience this does not see correct. To me, it seems that it used to be that way, but now people only download apps for very specific purposes.

Do you have pointers to data on this subject? I am very interested in this subject!

Re: Our app was banned because the button says “Report User” and not just “Report”

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post #135

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Load shedding is the correct technical term for it. It's not just a South African thing either, industrial consumers in Europe have the same stipulation in their power contracts: in case of emergency, the power company (network operator) may choose to suspend power delivery to protect the grid. However, in the EU this 1) isn't a regular occurrence, and 2) the grid has a tiered system for load shedding. I can't find a…

Texas had tier 3 level of load shedding recently.

Based on the incompetent decisions that ERCOT has made over the past few "severe weather events", I would say ERCOT and ESKOM are eerily similar.
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