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Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by Camillo »

GhostVII wrote: post #121
ve55 wrote: post #55

In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

Why not have user curated and shareable blocklists? So if I never want to see anything from Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos and the like, I just subscribe to a blocklist that eliminates far right commentators. You could even create networks of trusted users where anyone they block, is blocked for everyone in the network. Or have shareable rulesets, like "block anyone who uses this word", or "block anyone who follows…

> Why not have user curated and shareable blocklists?

Because often the goal is to control what _others_ can see.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by croes »

dragonwriter wrote: post #117
croes wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Tell people there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe, and the vast majority will believe you. Tell them the paint is wet, and they have to touch it to be sure."

That's simply not true, evangelization is hard and requires connection to personal experience much more the convincing people of wet paint does, and it requires connecting it to personal experience for which people haven’t already accepted a better explanation, which is a lot harder than with “the paint is wet”. You don't just tell people “God exists” and they're like “Oh, sure, thanks.” (Well, except perhaps sarcast…

Yes you do, that's how children get indoctrinated.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by PastaMonster »

On youtube you can have Thailand in the comment. If it do contain Thailand the comment will be auto-deleted. Thailand I can understand. Many people are homophobic and some made the mistake to take what looked like a woman home for some bed time and got upset when they realized they have made out with another man that whole time.

But Memphis, I don't have a clue why twitter dislikes that place. Can someone fill me in, please?

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

GhostVII wrote: post #121
ve55 wrote: post #55

In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

Why not have user curated and shareable blocklists? So if I never want to see anything from Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos and the like, I just subscribe to a blocklist that eliminates far right commentators. You could even create networks of trusted users where anyone they block, is blocked for everyone in the network. Or have shareable rulesets, like "block anyone who uses this word", or "block anyone who follows…

This does happen on a small scale with third party apps, but it seems like doing it on a large scale would just shift the review problem to the curators of the blocklists. If I ran a "known doxxers" blocklist, I'd have to rely on the same kinds of scripts that got Twitter in trouble here.

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Post by cbozeman »

ve55 wrote: post #55

In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

There is no way to moderate the entire world. The sooner everyone alive accepts this, the better off we will be.

The values of a Black lesbian female software developer who grew up in San Francisco and went to Stanford will never be compatible with the values of a Hispanic straight male Marine officer who grew up in San Antonio and went to Texas Christian University and has been deployed to 17 different countries.

However, they can and do exist on the same platforms. They can exist because both of them are going to HAVE to learn how to engage with one another, even though their existences are completely incompatible and utterly different.

There's no technology on Earth powerful enough to solve for the human condition. We have to evolve our ways of thinking and interacting.

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Post by yodelshady »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #80

So, we can seem how Twitter's censoring works now, start at a word that's only associated with Memphis, then draw gradually closer. Alternative spellings, alternative utf-8 lookalikes, alternative characters (leet speak, etc.). Usually if a company blocks words they do common substitutes too like: memph1s, m3mfis, ... do they block rot13(), how about ₘeₘphis, ᶬ3ₘph15??

Either the ban is over or utf-8 lookalikes are fine.

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Post by cbozeman »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #115
ve55 wrote: post #55

In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

The old internet with webforums for particular topics, where the moderators knew the posters, was a better model.

It really was, but we've largely abandoned that model.

The new model is going to require understanding that there are people who are totally opposed to almost everything you hold dear... and finding a way to interact with them.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by drstewart »

riffic wrote: post #69
dgellow wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a small anecdote: I created a company account, then set the birthday to ~1 year ago, when the company was registered. Everything was fine for 5 minutes, then my account has been blocked with a notification telling me that I need to be at least 13 years old to use Twitter. I can still login but cannot access the settings to change the birthday (or just remove it) as a screen “fix your age or prove your identity”…

What shocks me is there is no warning that setting a date of birth is a dangerous action. The company is just hostile to its users.

This likely has nothing to do with hostility and everything to do with regulation, specifically COPPA:

https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/com...

>7. I have a “mixed audience” app and would like to age screen my users. Are there specific requirements for the age screen?

>An example of a neutral age screen would be a system that allows a user freely to enter the month and year of birth. Avoid encouraging children to falsify age information by, for example, stating that certain features will not be available to users under age 13.

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