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The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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I agree that you have to be essentially anonymous to take part in counterculture these days. But the author claims that Discord and Reddit are examples of counterculture. I wholeheartedly disagree, these platforms are overly sanitized, moderated by the company, not the community. On Discord, people get banned for empty mass reports, and they can delete servers as they please. Reddit is valuable for driving communitie…

Reddit is the least countercultural site I can imagine. It's still Top 10 in sites visited, is it not? It's the very zeitgeist of the times. Those examples weaken an otherwise good article.

Reddit is a meta site. The default subs are of course the default consensus, but you can find subs of nearly every other position under the sun.

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Maybe Reddit as a whole, but what are your thoughts on WallStreetBets? It seems that WSB has all of the elements of a counterculture, although maybe diluted after the wide spread GME interest.

Yeah because WSB uses another language that many do not know, or care to know.

I’m really not sure “diamond hands” and “retard” count so much as another language. I think the big gap between there and other places on the same subject is on “gambling logic”, not right or wrong, I’ve seen more people there admit that than “Wallstreet Types” who would be trillionaires if they actually knew how to win.

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Yeah I think that was it! Thanks.

What the hell is he saying? Every video he mutters similar phrases as he exhales. Maybe he was speaking in code.

Sending messages to the youtubers of 2500 AD, most likely.

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It seems somewhat counter-cultural to not have social media and tv, though rejecting those things doesn't define a culture. I've had visitors to my house that realize I don't have a TV and they assume I'm some kind of judgemental weirdo.

I don't own a TV and most people here don't seem to know how to react to this information. Often they don't seem to have considered the possibility that someone wouldn't own one. I haven't watched television for entertainment in a decade or so, so I only get references which I absorb through YouTube, Twitch. I wouldn't think of myself countercultural, but it shows just how conforming many people are without realizing…

> I don't own a TV and most people here don't seem to know how to react to this information.

Really? We don't own a TV and it's very common within my friends group. I do watch occasional shows on my laptop and we streamed the superbowl on my husband's large computer monitor screen.

But I would say not having a TV is becoming more and more common.

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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Still reading the article, but this is an interesting blurb if nothing else: "To be truly countercultural today, in a time of tech hegemony, one has to, above all, betray the platform, which may come in the form of betraying or divesting from your public online self." I hadn't thought of boycotting much of popular online space as being counter-cultural. It's an interesting thought.

Really? Isn’t it already trendy to bash big tech and diss tech platforms?

I think so, but for most people it doesn't stop them from using the platforms. And then the criticism doesn't amount to much.

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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The truth is that today the counter-culture is the right wing dudes (and ladies) who won't be beholden to trigger warnings, won't treat particular words as if they have magical powers and won't try to get you fired if you openly believe that male and female are real concepts. If your cursor is hovering over the downvote button right now then that's natural - counter culture isn't popular. By definition.

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Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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Maybe Reddit as a whole, but what are your thoughts on WallStreetBets? It seems that WSB has all of the elements of a counterculture, although maybe diluted after the wide spread GME interest.

WSB is a shade of its former self now due to the onslaught of new members

Check out /r/wallstreetbetsogs. It's an attempt to bring back the old school WSB.

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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I run an independent film/animation/music/interactive studio- I have never owned any mobile phone and don't use any social media except for youtube. Our studio is not on any social media platforms. We are the counterculture. Our studio has released torrents of media over the past 15 years that I would classify as counterculture but you would never know because we aren't hustling on Zuckerbergian platforms or playing…

> We are the counterculture. Isn't that a tad bit arrogant to stick a flag in all of it? See also: https://youtu.be/uEx5G-GOS1k Youtube is "lame as fuck." Release everywhere to not be arbitrarily silenced because anything good is controversial, by definition. Why abuse the word "counterculture" so many times? It comes across like you're trying too hard. Good luck and I hope you find an audience rather than make at ob…

"anything good is controversial, by definition."

No, it isn't.

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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WSB is a shade of its former self now due to the onslaught of new members

Has a "what was WSB before the eternal September" escape hatch subreddit popped up yet?

Yes, /r/wallstreetbetsogs.

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

#170
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That's precisely the irritating image people like that have of themselves, which does not correspond to reality. What does it mean "beholden to trigger warnings"? I'm not sure in which sense you are beholden to something which you likely haven't even encountered outside of internet posts making fun of trigger warnings. What magic words are those? Not saying n*gger in polite company isn't censorship, it's just good ma…

well, he was downvoted. but not overwhelmining so; let's call it controversial. > And who exactly has been fired for "believing male and female are real concepts"? I recall some kind of minor debacle about a Stack Overflow moderator (or employee? details are vague) who got in trouble for something related to individual choice of pronouns. It seems to be what they're refering to.

Recently, I applied for a position at a well-known tech company, one where the requirements and my experience were a very good fit (imo). For the first time in my career, I soon received a rejection email without any interaction with a human.

The application form included a not-required field for "pronouns", which I left blank. Perhaps this was the test I failed.

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