Whenever I see Flutter news I can't help but feel bitter about the death of Flash.
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#162I want to love Flutter. But once looking at it, it's a no go. It's the new flash. Really, you cannot copy the text anymore. React native is my goto solution now.
Flutter team member here. In Flutter, the developer consciously decides which text should be selectable (and thus copy/paste'able), so while it's true that text is not inherently selectable in a Flutter app, text that the app developer decided to make selectable will be.
As a user I don't want the developer to need to anticipate which text ought to be selectable as they will inevitably fail to consider some use cases it ought to be the default.
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#163It seems to me that "Flutter (2) for Web" is still mostly "rendering widgets/elements to a canvas", and therefore lacking native HTML/CSS, etc, making it pointless in many ways. Am I missing something or did they change this?
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#164This is DOA..... fine for some generic/basic app, but I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole if you are building a serious app. This is another attempt from javascript/web front end developers trying to unseat native apps.... with the naive promise that is truly build once, run everywhere... It hasn't worked since 1995.... as these frameworks get decent, native apps push the envelope and user expectations just incr…
Flutter for mobile apps, cross-platform across Android and iOS is pretty amazing. I do not like what they are doing with Flutter Web, but that doesn't change that it is a pretty amazing framework for cross-platform mobile development.
Also, it isn't FE web devs driving Flutter. I know a lot of mobile cetric devs who really love it.
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#165Desktop support is still in beta:
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#166I want to love Flutter. But once looking at it, it's a no go. It's the new flash. Really, you cannot copy the text anymore. React native is my goto solution now.
Flutter team member here. In Flutter, the developer consciously decides which text should be selectable (and thus copy/paste'able), so while it's true that text is not inherently selectable in a Flutter app, text that the app developer decided to make selectable will be.
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#167Pretty sure I'm the only person on this thread who loves flutter. We use flutter web and Firebase for our hobbyist project, and the results have been simply amazing. Dart makes Typescript look like a joke. The build system alone makes flutter better than React Native ! I'm confident in being able to build any CRUD app in dart Edit, in fact how many of you have actually built a project in flutter .I can't believe anyo…
Can you share any example of Flutter Web that isn't a extremely basic Todo app, doesn't completely break regular browser UX and works without being slow as molasses?
I haven't seen one.
I like Flutter, but I don't think the Flutter Web design is very viable for production apps. It renders everything in canvas. Dart is already sluggish on native, and cross compiled to JS it's usually unusable.
I think Flutter will be a good choice for mobile and Desktop soon-ish, but for web ... maybe in a few years. Maybe.
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#168I want to love Flutter. But once looking at it, it's a no go. It's the new flash. Really, you cannot copy the text anymore. React native is my goto solution now.
> you cannot copy the text anymore.
Isn't this a feature? Having text easy to copy and paste is a copyright problem for many sites. Same with being able to save full-resolution images. It's pretty common to see a copy/paste in forum comments to get around a paywall.
IMO either this or some other webassembly view is the future, simply because it's great DRM. Sure, you can circumvent it, but most people cannot.
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#169Does this mean all desktop integrations have now migrated from alpha and are available on stable releases? The post isn't 100% clear on this. I tried out Flutter a while ago, and it's really promising as the only really viable alternative to the JS/browser stack for cross platform GUIs. Dart is not terribly inspiring and lacks the appeal of other new languages like Kotlin or Swift, but it's fine; as in: boring/easy t…
Seems like you've been around long enough to have read In Search of Stupidity. Lots of great stories in there, including one about a super famous tech person who once said the browser is too slow and will not ever be a viable place for apps. :)
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#170We're all complaining about how js is a bad language, tooling is a mess, and how the web is fundamentally built for documents and makes it hard to create app-like experiences. Now, Google comes and creates a whole new UI toolkit from scratch, couples it with a very beautiful SDK and component framework and offers a far better programming language than js could ever be but we're still nagging. I was also pretty disapp…
So now every website will require enabled WebAssembly to run god knows what code and I will have to install an anti-virus for my browser? No thanks. JS might be a bad language, but it's even worse in how it's abused with frameworks, tracking, etc for no good reason.
edit: funny how I can discuss extremely controversial political topics here and never have any of my comments killed, but having a negative opinion about wasm and JS frameworks is just a step too far lol.