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Re: Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthanasia

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Post by Zelphyr »

_qulr wrote: post #57

A couple weeks ago Twitter inexplicably suspended @AppsExposed, an account that has repeatedly exposed scams in Apple's App Store and was recently featured in Forbes. The account is still suspended. https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2021/02/02/porn-ap... This has nothing to do with euthanasia, but that's the point. It could be anything, or nothing. Twitter doesn't even have to give a reason for suspending acc…

I’ve not used Twitter in years and don’t know what the appeal was when I did.

“Audience” is specious to me considering the number of bots. Still, it’s an echo chamber regardless of which side you’re on.

So, yeah; I think we would all do well to recognize the immense bias of Twitter and ignore them. Soon enough their investors would punish them for these kinds of actions if we did. As it is, their investors love this nonsense because it results in “eyeballs”. Mine are rolling at Twitters antics.

Re: Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthanasia

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Post by jasonkester »

My money is on Twitter’s $0.50/hr offshore first tier support staff not being universally good at parsing the meaning of complex paragraphs of text.

I bet you could find plenty of educated native English speakers who would accidentally flip the meaning of that tweet around if forced to skim it and 200 other “probably bad” ones every hour, every day, all week.

So there’s probably no real news here except that big tech companies don’t do support tasks well.

Re: Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthanasia

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Post by newbie578 »

Keep up the good work Jack. This is a good direction, keep pissing everyone off until the EU finally steps in and starts regulating Twitter. Would love to see them have a taste of their own medicine.

Although I would prefer even more if Twitter went offline just like Parler did. I consider Twitter a net negative on the world honestly.

Re: Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthanasia

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Post by [deleted] »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #103
codetrotter wrote: post #4

I think being allowed to die on your own terms is a right that every human should have. And I think assisted suicide is a good thing. But I don’t understand why Twitter would block the Bishop for saying what he said. And the reason they gave, that it “promotes self harm”.. that’s straight up Kafkaesque.

Assume you are right, the way it is being implemented is by threatening doctors to pull the trigger. Humans are too stupid to implement this without horrifying consequences. In the Netherlands a ‘hilarious’ scene occurred when a doctor showed up and killed a patient who was screaming not wanting to die in front of their family. Apparently the patient was not in a mental state to decide not to die after previously bei…

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Re: Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthanasia

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Post by caseysoftware »

somehnrdr14726 wrote: post #63
keiferski wrote: post #12

Why does it matter if the flagging is automatic? Does that somehow make it more acceptable? The popularity of this view makes me wish more people read Kafka. A future tyranny might end up not being Orwell's 1984 or Huxley's Brave New World, but a kafkesque nightmare where people are lost in a world of AI giving out absurd punishments. [1] Kafka's book The Castle [2] is essentially about this, although I think his aph…

One difference is that Twitter, Facebook, Google, are not governments and have no real authority over you. They only have the power you give them by choosing to stay in their ecosystem. Therefore it's a strain to refer to them as officials. If you're worried about them _becoming_ officials, then act now. Leave these platforms and convince others to do the same.

> If you're worried about them _becoming_ officials, then act now.

If you mean this figuratively, we already have many situations - going back at least to the Arab Spring - of government officials directing policy on social media sites. Secretary Clinton of the Obama Administration spoke about this many times.

If you mean this literally, check out how may high level policy types from social media companies came from and have returned to high ranking spokesman+policy roles in Biden Administration.

But fundamentally, it doesn't require being an official. Even filtering and shaping search results has an impact.. and this has been measured repeatedly. Here's a study from five years ago (aka pre-Trump) which demonstrated it:

https://aeon.co/essays/how-the-internet-flips-elections-and-...

Re: Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthanasia

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Post by thaufeki »

yurielt wrote: post #78
s_dev wrote: post #34

Kevin Doran has some serious hang ups with gay people. Surprised he was never banned on that account by Twitter. He's quite the controversial Catholic figure even in Ireland.

Why are people surprised or annoyed at catholics being catholics tho, he is controversial among pozzed circles but he seems to be a Catholic being a catholic and that is it.

Exactly. "Priest teaches Church teaching", woooah, what a radical.

I think secular society (i.e. Big Tech, mainstream media, governments) is treading a very interesting line at the moment, because it simultaneously is ( or at least appears to be) embracing all faiths and cultures, while denouncing them as being inherently hateful (Christianity, Islam).

The idea that they will ever reform and completely 180 on teachings they've stood by for thousands of years is naïve. And if we stand by the idea that we simply cannot tolerate hateful speech, with the definition of hateful becoming broader every day, where will we end up?

The next 10 years will be very interesting

Re: Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthanasia

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Post by refurb »

yurielt wrote: post #78
s_dev wrote: post #34

Kevin Doran has some serious hang ups with gay people. Surprised he was never banned on that account by Twitter. He's quite the controversial Catholic figure even in Ireland.

Why are people surprised or annoyed at catholics being catholics tho, he is controversial among pozzed circles but he seems to be a Catholic being a catholic and that is it.

Why are people surprised or annoyed at catholics being catholics tho

This made me chuckle as I’ve had similar thoughts. It’s like being surprised when a Mormon complains about drinking coffee.

“But yeah, he’s a Mormon. That’s what they do?”

Re: Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthanasia

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Post by hntrader »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #18
hntrader wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's plausible, but he was also turned down on appeal, which was probably by a different pair of eyes.

Yeah: the first set of eyes. Before then, it's pure automation (afaik).

Good point, the appeal may have been the first time a human reviewed the case, I was assuming otherwise.

Re: Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthanasia

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Post by [deleted] »

koonsolo wrote: post #123
keiferski wrote: post #12

Why does it matter if the flagging is automatic? Does that somehow make it more acceptable? The popularity of this view makes me wish more people read Kafka. A future tyranny might end up not being Orwell's 1984 or Huxley's Brave New World, but a kafkesque nightmare where people are lost in a world of AI giving out absurd punishments. [1] Kafka's book The Castle [2] is essentially about this, although I think his aph…

Alright, let's say you get appointed at Twitter to clean up this mess. You get full authority to do whatever needs to be done. How would you solve this? Your solution will be criticized by the other HN-ers here :D.

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Re: Twitter locks out Irish Bishop after he criticized euthanasia

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Post by koonsolo »

_qulr wrote: post #156
koonsolo wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So basically some other platform will take over?

No, break up all the tech giants, and prevent monopolistic platforms from ever arising. A platform so gigantic that it's impossible for humans to intelligently manage it should simply not exist.

You do realize the network effect right?

You mean that a bunch of your friends is on one platform, and a bunch of others on another platform, and your family on still another one.

But then you have to be on all platforms, so this means everyone else also needs to be on all platforms.

So how exactly do you see this working when reality pushes everyone to use a single platform? because you know, it's a social network.

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