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Re: Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers

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Why? If an app scams users, is Apple going to be liable for that?

Well, they’re benefitting from the fraud with their 30% cut. So yeah.

Apple doesn’t benefit from scam apps, the 30% doesn’t remotely make up for the brand damage.

And in this case it’s unlikely the scammers are making more than a few hundred a month.

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So then the only recourse is for you to produce 10 cloned apps of YOUR own app-each w a different color, font, and language. Well maybe a hundred clones? each for a different geographical location? Since you own all of them, you would swamp out any competition.

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What is the worst those scammers have to fear? Having their app banned from the App store? If so, this sounds like a very unethical, but amost risk free business model.

You don’t get paid for nearly 60 days so if someone reports you all the work you did for your scamming is for naught.

I assume that the money earned neither goes back to the customer nor to the honest competitors. If I am correct here, Apple would even have a financial incentive that these frauds exist.

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It’s easy to blame Apple here and to some degree they are responsible for scammers aren’t banned from the App Store. However, why isn’t somebody complaining who got scammed? Don’t they want $400 back? Maybe they do a simple refund and that’s enough for them but there should be some feedback loop to detect scams quickly before they climb the App Store charts.

It’s unlikely many users got scammed by this. So most of the few that do are likely complaining and in the ocean of incoming complaints Apple will eventually see this and ban the developers.

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Fortunately making an app that does the same thing as an existing app isn't copyright infringement - that would be far worse than the Amazon "one click" patent, as there would only be one company allowed to make a web browser, word processor, spreadsheet, etc.

Copying texts is potentially copyright infringement, though.

Depends. Threshold of originality can be a bitch.

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This might be "old man shaking fist at clouds", but was crapware this bad before centralized app stores? I know it was out there - most famously stuffed into SourceForge downloads - but it didn't seem to be as prevalent. Though perhaps it's more a reflection of increased ROI from doing things like this in 2021 vs 2001.

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If the infringing App is in a foreign country the scenario is much more complicated than you are suggesting.

It is, but the US and the EU legally recognize each other's copyrights. So he can sue the Chinese company in his country, and when they don't show up send Apple a notice to freeze assets related to the company, which just needs a US lawyer. In the end the lawyers win, but it is a straight forward case (assuming all the facts are as given...)

Yes, you likely could threaten Apple with a lawyer. But based on your comment you likely have never dealt with a lawsuit, especially involving several jurisdictions. And trust me, the lawyer want the same thing as the scammer. Your money!

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Making a keyboard that has the selling point of "being good on the Apple Watch" seems like a fragile business model to begin with, when Apple's goal should be implementing the best possible keyboard. This has struck custom keyboard vendors in the past(e.g. Gboard stealing basically all custom keyboard market share by implementing stand-out features). Please correct me if I'm missing something. Hope the he can rectify…

A reasonable analogy might be competitive gaming, where the author is trying to be the best of the best and achieve rank 1 on a competitive ladder, but he's losing because the rank 1 player is cheating. You're suggesting they play a different game because the maker of this game is allowing a cheater to nullify the results of the competitive scene. Do you see how it might poor form to tell a person trying to be the be…

No his point is to stop playing games anyone can play (including the console maker who has a tremendous incentive to be the best at the game), and build a business with a sustainable competitive advantage.

I’ve built an entire business around OS enhancements before, it’s like picking up nickels before a steamroller.

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If the infringing App is in a foreign country the scenario is much more complicated than you are suggesting.

It is, but the US and the EU legally recognize each other's copyrights. So he can sue the Chinese company in his country, and when they don't show up send Apple a notice to freeze assets related to the company, which just needs a US lawyer. In the end the lawyers win, but it is a straight forward case (assuming all the facts are as given...)

And how long does that legal process take compared to the time it takes for the spammer to set up a new legal entity, app, and App Store account?

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As the other comment mentioned, 2k/month is a starter salary in the nordics. It is near instagram-lifestyle money in Portugal, Spain and most of the eastern EU for a young single person. A student having their own apartment (and a car??) is already a luxury 99% of the world will never experience.

>2k/month is a starter salary in the nordics. Definitely not true in Norway, it's closer to twice that.

Since the conversation started about students needing 2k Euros to live, the 2k we're talking about is net or after taxes.

I know Norway has high wages and prices but I can't imagine new-grads there making 4k after taxes.

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