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Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Post by refactor_master »

outworlder wrote: post #146
mattjaynes wrote: post #136

Ask yourself, how much brighter is it outside than inside (assuming a sunny day vs a brightly lit office)? Before looking into this, I would have guessed 2X or 3X, but would you believe it's actually over 100X! I bet most people's guess would also be off by 1 or 2 orders of magnitude. Even outdoors in the shade, it is over 50X brighter than indoors. (For specific numbers and comparisons, see: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih…

> I bring this up because one of the largest factors in myopia development appears to be outdoor light exposure in childhood. I used to live almost on the equator. Before adolescence, I would spent most of my time outdoors. Very stable weather so windows were open most of the day (and night). There was often direct sunlight even indoors. We would go to the beach every weekend. I ended up with -5.00 and -5.25 Maybe th…

I live in the dark North and have always been fond of screens. Being outdoorsy is a much later-acquired taste. My vision at soon 30 is still 20/20.

Probability is a strange beast.

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Post by gcheong »

dorfsmay wrote: post #84

Correcting? They mean temporarily cure... If this works, it's fascinating! One thing I have been wondering for a while, and I thought this what it was when I read the title, is, why can't we have zoom lenses with a camera turned inword to the retina applying autofocus algorithms? As I age, I need a different prescription for every 20 cm I push my laptop back, something like this would be very useful. Anybody knows wh…

It's not clear what the current status is but this is the website for that project: http://cvdw.org . Last Facebook post was in 2018.

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Post by dangjc »

whoisburbansky wrote: post #2

It looks like the article doesn't have any details on how this works, anybody care to speculate on a potential mechanism here?

This is similar to the “active focus” method: https://endmyopia.org/

I’ve been in this Facebook group for a while and lots of people have great personal anecdata about their improvements. It’s really interesting to see a medical device come out and if they have clinical trials to back it up.

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Post by c9fc42ad »

mastazi wrote: post #160
mattjaynes wrote: post #136

Ask yourself, how much brighter is it outside than inside (assuming a sunny day vs a brightly lit office)? Before looking into this, I would have guessed 2X or 3X, but would you believe it's actually over 100X! I bet most people's guess would also be off by 1 or 2 orders of magnitude. Even outdoors in the shade, it is over 50X brighter than indoors. (For specific numbers and comparisons, see: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih…

People who have the hobby of photography, might have some intuitive understanding of this brightness difference. If you are shooting with fixed aperture and ISO, your exposure times could easily go from 1/60 indoors to 1/3000 outdoors which is not quite a 100X difference, but close.

This is true, it wasn't until I started photography that I realized how much darker it was inside compared to outside.

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Post by midjji »

outworlder wrote: post #149
atotic wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've read this study a while ago, and I think it helped me correct my son's myopia. When my 5yo kid's eye check came back with "he'll need glasses next year", we started strict "hour+ outside play daily" policy. At his next checkup, he had normal vision. Dr was surprised.

I believe that's still under active research. If this is a factor, my money is more on "your eyes will be focusing more at infinity" rather then low light levels.

Focusing on infinity more has been tested using glasses designed to force this, it was a popular theory for 60 years or so, and many opticians prescribed glasses which forced people to do this as a result. I cant find it atm, but the result according to a large metastudy was that it caused headaches, and nothing else of note.

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Post by cupofcoffee »

unexpected wrote: post #158
stevebmark wrote: post #150

This will absolutely not, under any circumstances, "correct" myopia. You can only slow its progression, with techniques like: - Pupil dilating eye drops - Wearing corrective lenses as little as possible - Wearing glasses with fogged edges/rims - Reducing the time you hold objects close to your face The major factor behind all of this is to reduce the over focusing of light on your retina and fovea. The more light tha…

You so sure about that? My myopia has gone from -5.50 to -4.00 over the years.

What did you do?

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Post by vasquez »

unexpected wrote: post #158
stevebmark wrote: post #150

This will absolutely not, under any circumstances, "correct" myopia. You can only slow its progression, with techniques like: - Pupil dilating eye drops - Wearing corrective lenses as little as possible - Wearing glasses with fogged edges/rims - Reducing the time you hold objects close to your face The major factor behind all of this is to reduce the over focusing of light on your retina and fovea. The more light tha…

You so sure about that? My myopia has gone from -5.50 to -4.00 over the years.

If you're nearing/above 40 this is likely age related farsightedness (presbyopia) counteracting your myopia.

https://www.nvisioncenters.com/farsightedness/and-age/

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Post by mattjaynes »

stevebmark wrote: post #151
mattjaynes wrote: post #136

Ask yourself, how much brighter is it outside than inside (assuming a sunny day vs a brightly lit office)? Before looking into this, I would have guessed 2X or 3X, but would you believe it's actually over 100X! I bet most people's guess would also be off by 1 or 2 orders of magnitude. Even outdoors in the shade, it is over 50X brighter than indoors. (For specific numbers and comparisons, see: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih…

That's only correlation, light brightness has nothing to do with myopia. It's more likely from looking at things farther away from the face outside so that there is less light focused on the fovea.

"light brightness has nothing to do with myopia" - that's a big claim and will need some evidence to back it up, especially given the many studies that suggest otherwise.

This is still a topic with many unknowns, but we have to follow the evidence as much as we can. Evidence should always beat data-free guesses.

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Post by oehtXRwMkIs »

stevebmark wrote: post #151
mattjaynes wrote: post #136

Ask yourself, how much brighter is it outside than inside (assuming a sunny day vs a brightly lit office)? Before looking into this, I would have guessed 2X or 3X, but would you believe it's actually over 100X! I bet most people's guess would also be off by 1 or 2 orders of magnitude. Even outdoors in the shade, it is over 50X brighter than indoors. (For specific numbers and comparisons, see: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih…

That's only correlation, light brightness has nothing to do with myopia. It's more likely from looking at things farther away from the face outside so that there is less light focused on the fovea.

Correlation does not imply causation but it does imply having something to do with the other. Your first sentence contradicts itself.
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