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Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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It is infuriating that Google's default action for these automated takedowns is to remove the app and ask the developer to upload a new build with a new package name , which means not keeping any of the existing users. It's happened to two of my clients in the past 6 months based on small infractions in the app metadata, but no issue with the app itself. In both cases the app was taken down with no advance notice, an…

We have had this happen twice as well. Maddening.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#162

Just wanna make sure I got this right. "ASS", automatic instant suspension with 0 human review. "King's Throne: Game of Lust.", with advertised gameplay content such as "I, [the King], shall interrogate this female prisoner privately in my bed chambers", is one of the top advertised games on google play. Got it.

Yes. This is the current state of "AI" at Google: a faulty regexp that matches "ASS" in "SSA, ASS, TTML" but not, from the issue description, in "(SSA/ASS)".

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#163
Don't worry, this is just the Google way: "act first, fix later". It's better to ban at the first sign of a problem, and then if something bad happened review and fix it.

Nothing to worry about, they also expect this from you, simply act first and if you are doing it wrong they will act...and ban...and disable your account...wait.

(They are the big, you are the small, they can, you don't)

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#164
post #150

> Your app contains content that doesn't comply with the Sexual Content and Profanity policy. What the fuck is "profanity"? Are we a religious society? Why shouldn't we able to say "ass" (!) or show nipples?? The ban on porn is defensible outside of any moral framework because once you allow porn then all what's left is porn (although it would be useful to think about why that is). But "profanity"? Come on.

Yes we are a religious society. Our roots are in puritanism, in fact that's one of the main differentiators from the (Catholic-based) European countries from which we sprang.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#165

Google and Apple have kept a stranglehold on the mobile application distribution market for over a decade now. It's time to break them up, or require them to allow other mobile app distributors on their platforms. Surely other companies can be more efficient with the 30% cut or less that Google takes, without forcing users to put up with the poor service that's exemplified by the article in the OP.

Apple now takes a 15% fee and has a really good review process (updates are reviewed by humans within a day or two)

> Apple now takes a 15% fee

Surely if there was real competition in the mobile app distribution market, we could see how efficient competitors can be with that 15% or less cut compared to Apple.

> and has a really good review process (updates are reviewed by humans within a day or two)

In this very thread, an iOS developer is lamenting the fact that their iOS app has been held in limbo for weeks by Apple reviewers[1]. It's responsible for 100% of their income, and Apple's arbitrary rules and reviewers are cutting into that.

That doesn't instill confidence in me that Apple has a really good review process at all. To me, it shows that we need real competition in the mobile app distribution space.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25907375

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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post #130
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They were the champions of the open web for a long time. Because that's what you say when you're the underdog. Remember Apple's 1984 ad? Microsoft's "a computer on every desk"? The tech industry seems to support a rotating cast of monopolists riding atop whatever gate-keeping function emerges, each one holding on as long as it can until replaced by something that ends up looking a lot like the last top dog.

I'm quite confident you can't run a company as big as Google without being evil but it seems useful to ponder why does it happen. Corpo structure seems to have something to do with it, separate things into categories, then teams get categories and optimize locally without taking bigger picture into account (or even knowing what the picture is). Some regulations, maybe some pressures from some agencies about which the…

It's quite simple: if one not be evil, one won't become or remain as big.

It's simple survival of the fittest. The lion who feels compassion for his prey will not pass his genes to the next generation.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#167
post #150

> Your app contains content that doesn't comply with the Sexual Content and Profanity policy. What the fuck is "profanity"? Are we a religious society? Why shouldn't we able to say "ass" (!) or show nipples?? The ban on porn is defensible outside of any moral framework because once you allow porn then all what's left is porn (although it would be useful to think about why that is). But "profanity"? Come on.

Religion's got nothing to do with it. Racial slurs are a subset of "profanity", and I wager that you support Google's desire to not have apps in their store which prominently feature racial slurs. Every culture has its "bad words" which are forbidden to use in polite company.

(Of course the actual app in question is still completely innocent, because Google's vetting process is a trash fire.)

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#168
post #107
post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because they are forced to use really shitty subbing formats for assisted text in some compliance format :| Edit: Are those baked into the video or did they just use the ASS format?

Even the old-school analog EIA-608 captioning system can do positional captions. It's all these modern web players (like Youtube's) that have regressed to a single line of text bottom-center.

You can definitely still do some interesting things with YouTube subtitles;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cqqGOvOGfI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvO8kcWFFT0

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#169

This tracks. One of the things that always gets me about US media is that gratuitous rape - even fairly graphic rape scenes on TV - is just fine as long it doesn't involve visible nipples.

Is that so? I find that U.S.A. media tends to avoid rape but features all other kinds of violence. Anything related to sex, nudity and swearwords is held to the utmost standards of censorship.

In a general sense yes. The instant there's a (female) nipple on screen there's basically no way you're going to show up on broadcast TV and largely get relegated to paid cable or internet streaming. You don't get onscreen rape but a lot of sex on TV is really rape adjacent and perpetuates the kind of "when she says no you really need to keep asking" thing that's messed up so much of the US's sex culture.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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post #150

> Your app contains content that doesn't comply with the Sexual Content and Profanity policy. What the fuck is "profanity"? Are we a religious society? Why shouldn't we able to say "ass" (!) or show nipples?? The ban on porn is defensible outside of any moral framework because once you allow porn then all what's left is porn (although it would be useful to think about why that is). But "profanity"? Come on.

Yes we are a religious society. Our roots are in puritanism, in fact that's one of the main differentiators from the (Catholic-based) European countries from which we sprang.

"We"? Google is booking less than 50% of its revenue in the US.
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