For who curious, the antivirus that caused problem looks like Norton 360.
Porting Firefox to Apple Silicon
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Re: Porting Firefox to Apple Silicon
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
The built-in Windows Defender is absolutely painful on low end machines. Yours should be absolutely fine, but on a 2010 macbook with an ancient core2duo and 2gb ram, it's very noticeable.
I have an i7 with 16GB of RAM and when Defender and update both decide to run at the same time it cripples the machine for half an hour.
"i7 CPU" is totally zero informative for now. It's vary from 2core 1GHz (ancient i7 620UM) to 18 core.
Re: Porting Firefox to Apple Silicon
#163I wonder if Mozilla regrets laying off 25% of their engineering team [0] given their rapidly declining browser market share [1], and their rapidly declining performance. Not to mention their forced adoption of the new Firefox on Android which disables all add-ons except Mozilla approved ones, despite their promises to correct this [2]. Mozilla _used_ to be about open internet and security, but that's just a false pre…
Nice trolling.
You can use general extensions on Android in Nightly, so this is in progress: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extensio...
But sure, if you want to "throw away the idea of internet freedom" then that's your choice.
Re: Porting Firefox to Apple Silicon
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Still, I (and most I guess) wouldn't use it to watch Netflix over individual apps. If the experience is so much better why are Apple scared to let other browsers into the app store? Phones are general purpose computers for the majority of the world's population, exercising such authoritarian grip over what a user can do with the device is very depressing to see being defended.
> If the experience is so much better why are Apple scared to let other browsers into the app store? Well, the weasel word "scared" kind of begs the question. Who said it's "scared"? Apple spearheaded the modern browser with Safari. Chrome wasn't even a thing then (it forked off of Apple's work on Safari/Webkit later, just like v8 came after Apple's own JSC JIT work). As for Mobile Safari, it took several years for A…
Mobile Safari does hold the Web back. Examples are easy to find:
Safari doesn't support the standard unprefixed fullscreen API, while Firefox and Chrome have for years, so Web developers have to write a bunch of compatibility crap or accept fullscreen not working on iOS.
Firefox and Chrome have supported WebGL2 for years, iOS Safari still doesn't.
Re: Porting Firefox to Apple Silicon
#165Re: Porting Firefox to Apple Silicon
#166I wonder if Mozilla regrets laying off 25% of their engineering team [0] given their rapidly declining browser market share [1], and their rapidly declining performance. Not to mention their forced adoption of the new Firefox on Android which disables all add-ons except Mozilla approved ones, despite their promises to correct this [2]. Mozilla _used_ to be about open internet and security, but that's just a false pre…
> [...] throw away the idea of internet freedom and just use the best performing browser of the week.
I'm not sure if you realise the ridiculousness of your statement.
I think many of your citations are used on a surface level to push your point. I don't think you considered the reasons for Chrome's dominance in the market, which is more to do with other issues such as Google's position of power than the issues you brought up here.
Chrome on Android has never supported addons, and now with Google spear heading changes such as manifest v3, I would consider these worse than decisions Mozilla have made with Firefox. You fail to mention decisions such as Mozilla's continued investment into tracking protection, which have been inheriting protections originating from the Tor Browser project.
I think the reasons why Mozilla have decided to slowly reintroduce addons to their new Android release should be considered. Their efforts to work with uBlock Origin to create a better mobile interface seems to point towards a desire for quality control, one that Google avoids with Chrome on Android altogether.
Re: Porting Firefox to Apple Silicon
#167I wonder if Mozilla regrets laying off 25% of their engineering team [0] given their rapidly declining browser market share [1], and their rapidly declining performance. Not to mention their forced adoption of the new Firefox on Android which disables all add-ons except Mozilla approved ones, despite their promises to correct this [2]. Mozilla _used_ to be about open internet and security, but that's just a false pre…
What rapidly declining market share? Did you even open the wikipedia page you're referring to? There are no graphs over the last few months, and if you look at the sources[0][1][2], it looks like their market share declined BEFORE the layoff (from January to August 2020). After the layoff, it seems pretty stable.
As a reference, I'm going to post the values here:
Source: Jan 2020 - Aug 2020 - Jan 2021
netmarketshare: 3.61% - 3.00% - 2.98%
wikimedia analytics: 5.2% - 4.6% - 4.7%
statcounter: 4.7% - 4.09% - 3.77%
[0] https://netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?options...
[1] https://analytics.wikimedia.org/dashboards/browsers/#all-sit... (change date range to Jan 1 2020 - Jan 21 2021, remove other browsers)
[2] https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share#monthly-2020... (remove other browsers)
Re: Porting Firefox to Apple Silicon
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
Been there. They aren't. Some of the mechanics vary, but good service does not. Right now, I am in the small business space and rock solid support is how we are killing it. Been there, very large, small, medium, consumer, b2b... Don't tell me it can't or should not be done when billions land in accounts free and clear. It can. Should. I spend with those who get that first and foremost.
Maybe you should quit your current career arc and help companies change their attitude and thus unearth extra billions in profits? And I don’t mean that cynically - since if it’s as easy and guaranteed profitable as you say, why wouldn’t you be able to convince numerous CEOs to unearth all of those extra billions?
It is all value judgements.
Again, if the priority is to always have a positive ROI, and that metric is computed every quarter, without due and inclusive consideration for externalities?
All the things I discussed here are going to get watered down. And it is always the same priority on max dollars now, max recurring dollars now, and WGIF about the future, others.
Where that happens, so do the things I just said. Not my mess to clean up.
Some enterprises get it. They get my time, attention, dollars and referrals first.
Beyond that? Got better things to do.
Clearly you value things differently. That does not make anything I said wrong.
Take care. You get last word on this.
Re: Porting Firefox to Apple Silicon
#169Got a kick out of one of the bugzilla links: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34572 "Use native context menus on Mac OS" "Opened 21 years ago"
Aesthetics aside, is there anything Firefox's context menu lacks because it's non-native? Like accessibility features and such?
Look Up "[selection]" constantly bugs me. I constantly use it to define words. I feel like there are others that come up periodically. It sounds pedantic, but it's enough of a pain point that I'm itching to switch browsers.
Re: Porting Firefox to Apple Silicon
#170What porting? Isn't C++ the most portable language in existence? Oh, there is also Rust. But isn't it just uses an LLVM codegen, same as Swift or clang? So, there is Rust's stdlib.
Seems like these abstractions are not exactly zero-cost?