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Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Well-written argument for the app reviewers to get bent, especially the highlighted examples of other apps that show the rule is clearly applied inconsistently. Apple's App Store moderation is embarrassing. They routinely fail to catch harmful junk—I've shut down a few top-grossing bogus antivirus apps for Mac, and the publisher of Untitled Goose Game routinely posts screenshots of clones that are trying to make mone…

Apple's morality is very hit and miss at times. However it really comes down to squeaky wheel advocates get a lot of traction and Apple responds by going after the targets. Its a worse form of moral enforcement because its a completely moving target.

People, especially tech oriented folks, always seem to decry the threat of religious persecution by politicians but failed to recognize that enforcement of morals by any group can have very dangerous side effects. We see statements to that effect here all the time, people judged for lifestyle choices that are not in favor by one group or another. Morals become weaponized as they can be undefinable immeasurable standard applied to those who are no longer in favor by action, deed, or thought.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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The post conflates methylphenidate-based stimulant medications (Concerta, Focalin, Ritalin, Metadate, Methylin) with true amphetamine-based medications (Adderall, Dexedrine).

Related, the former are not amphetamine derivatives, which is a common misnomer.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Honestly if your name your product stupid things I would think that some of us might be choosing not to download your product as a result. And if a store decides not to sell your product because of this it’s really their prerogative. Saying you violated their terms with impunity for 6 years doesn’t mean they lose the right to correct the mistake. This name is pretty rings rather badly in my ears, though I’m not offen…

[Sorry, I'm a bit hyped up at the moment] This is all ridiculous and I don't like where we're headed as a society.

I don’t buy your claim that there’s a double standard here. “Beer bong” would be another bad name for this app that I wouldn’t blame Apple for restricting. This isn’t about the arguably mixed up public policies that treat certain drugs as more dangerous than other drugs.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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> Apple [...] featured Amphetamine in a Mac App Store Story Ouch > Customize Your Mac’s Sleep Settings > Amphetamine gives you granular control https://apps.apple.com/us/story/id1470456860

This needs to be upvoted

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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https://nlpc.org/2020/12/30/report-uighur-slaves-forced-to-w...

Apple and many others: "In all, ASPI’s research has identified 82 foreign and Chinese companies potentially directly or indirectly benefiting from the use of Uyghur workers outside Xinjiang through abusive labour transfer programs as recently as 2019: Abercrombie & Fitch, Acer, Adidas, Alstom, Amazon, Apple, ASUS, BAIC Motor, Bestway, BMW, Bombardier, Bosch, BYD, Calvin Klein, Candy, Carter’s, Cerruti 1881, Changan A…

I am mad at all of them for their labor practices. Even if I wasn't, one company doing something nefarious isn't vindicated because others are doing same.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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I mean, on this point I'm actually inclined to think Apple's general policy is reasonable, even if it sucks that Apple is only now adding or enforcing this rule.

It doesn't want apps that jokingly call themselves "Crack Cocaine", "Crystal Meth", or "Mango Vape". It doesn't have anything to do with them actually promoting drug use, but it helps normalize illegal drug use in a way, while Apple wants to keep a "family friendly" approach to its App Store.

Honestly, if I were the creator I'd just rebrand it.

I remember coming across the app years ago, it wasn't obvious from the name what it did, and when I finally understood it, it just seemed like the creator was trying a little too hard to be "edgy". And if you want the widest possible usage/distribution of your app, "edgy" is usually not the way to go.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system. My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition. They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.

Honestly if your name your product stupid things I would think that some of us might be choosing not to download your product as a result. And if a store decides not to sell your product because of this it’s really their prerogative. Saying you violated their terms with impunity for 6 years doesn’t mean they lose the right to correct the mistake. This name is pretty rings rather badly in my ears, though I’m not offen…

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Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Can we stop endlessly puting Apple's various authoritarians missteps under the spotlight? It's been literally decades now, we know they can and will do whatever they want in their walled garden. Stop giving them attention. Complaining clearly does not work, if you want to make a difference, change platforms. Nobody is forcing you to develop for Apple.

There are a number of cases where the publicity helped to reverse a not favorable decision. I think this is the same strategy used here and they seemed to have made their homework before going public.

I don't know for how many cases this didn't work but it's clear that it works for _some_. They don't want to make a difference and don't want to change platforms.

For what is worth, I'm glad for this publicity for it's clear it's part of a continuing stream of issues that should steer away any newcomer with open eyes.

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