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Re: The Mayron Cole Piano Method is now free

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Worth mentioning for anyone who happens not to know about it that there's a massive repository of out-of-copyright (either by time or decision of the composer) music scores and recordings for all instruments by a huge number of composers. Using the 'genre' section is useful for finding music of an appropriate level for performers. https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Composers https://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page https://imsl…

IMSLP is absolutely essential for working musicians! Glad to see it on here.

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> If you get real-time reliable detection of notes and chords working in the browser then please let me know Will do! That is of course the focal point of any code I write for this, and it’s very tricky. To perhaps give you a little more confidence that I might figure this out, I know it’s not as simple as forwarding midi data through WebRTC and playing it on receipt on the other end ;) This gist of how I do it now i…

I have one good friend in Berlin who is working on the same problem, would you like an intro? If so send me an email please, jacques@modularcompany.com

Sent an email, very curious!

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Sorry but I have to disagree a lot. An app is not the best way to learn piano. Piano is not just about pressing keys. Does the app correct your position (important if you don't want to get fatigue and cramps), your volume, fingerings, etc? Does it tell you how to practice the parts where you're struggling? > connect it to an el cheapo midi keyboard Please don't do that. I mean, if you just want to give it a try to pi…

> Sorry but I have to disagree a lot. And I have to disagree a lot with you. I had a piano teacher when I was young and that person put me off piano for the next 45 years or so. A good teacher will help you, a not so good teacher may well cause you to lose interest. Right now I'm practicing on my own, when I want, without a set schedule and without the goal of getting good enough to satisfy my - nonexistent - teacher…

Bad teachers are an issue, of course. But bad apps can be an issue too. No matter the method there's always the risk of not implementing it correctly.

> their goals may not overlap with mine.

That's a matter of talking with the teacher and setting down the goals.

> Finally, not everybody learns in the same way and not everybody has your budget.

My point is not "I did classes and I'm good now", is "I didn't do enough classes and now I see how that wasn't the best".

> I don't like the way you are all over this thread proclaiming the 'one true way'

If that's the way I'm coming across I'm sorry. My point is that there's more to music learning that people think (specially in HN, where I've seen really bad takes in some posts), and that they should be mindful that an app will not be a magic method. I've seen friends that had very high expectations and then got discouraged quickly. I prefer that people know what's ahead, and align the method to use with the expectations they have.

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Really? I find myself surrounded by self taught programmers, musicians, and visual artists all the time. Yes. Nobody I know will play in the London philharmonic. But we figured out enough to play a cover band in highschool, and I'm figuring out enough to learn passable music production. On that note, from what I've learned from their interviews, many of the biggest producers have never taken a music lesson. This isn'…

The point is the lessons as a standardised tool work quite well in producing results. The variation in results is much higher if you go off the well beaten path. Secondly, if you think learning piano is comparable to programming or art then you are completely mistaken. Edit- added here since HN doesn’t let you comment anymore if you get downvoted too much. With programming, the feedback is immediate and accurate. You…

As both a crummy programmer and crummy musician, I’d like to hear more about your perspective on how they differ.

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Sorry but I have to disagree a lot. An app is not the best way to learn piano. Piano is not just about pressing keys. Does the app correct your position (important if you don't want to get fatigue and cramps), your volume, fingerings, etc? Does it tell you how to practice the parts where you're struggling? > connect it to an el cheapo midi keyboard Please don't do that. I mean, if you just want to give it a try to pi…

> Sorry but I have to disagree a lot. And I have to disagree a lot with you. I had a piano teacher when I was young and that person put me off piano for the next 45 years or so. A good teacher will help you, a not so good teacher may well cause you to lose interest. Right now I'm practicing on my own, when I want, without a set schedule and without the goal of getting good enough to satisfy my - nonexistent - teacher…

I was exactly in the same situation. And I would say ..if it wasn't for COVID, I wouldn't have landed on this.

learning using an app is low pressure, very pleasant, very game-y. Im at the point, where the game has gotten me interested enough that I wandered on the internet towards "Taubman method for eliminating RSI", etc.

I strongly recommend it for kids even. Im pretty sure this will get me flamed by people who play piano already, but I'm willing to bet money that for non-musical parents, they would be pleasantly surprised that their kids are doing something other than playing videogames...and kinda learning something awesome while stuck at home.

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Seconded, Yamaha, Kawai and Roland all make gear in that price range that is nothing short of incredible in terms of quality and sound. Besides the fact that they don't need tuning like an acoustic would and which tends to add up over time.

Just putting in a vote for my Casio Privia PX-S1000.

Ah yes, they are also pretty good, I tried one at a music store here in nl but forgot about it. Definitely worth a mention.

Re: The Mayron Cole Piano Method is now free

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Sorry but I have to disagree a lot. An app is not the best way to learn piano. Piano is not just about pressing keys. Does the app correct your position (important if you don't want to get fatigue and cramps), your volume, fingerings, etc? Does it tell you how to practice the parts where you're struggling? > connect it to an el cheapo midi keyboard Please don't do that. I mean, if you just want to give it a try to pi…

Uuuugh, classicists are so boring. Not everything has to be classical piano. Thelonius Monk didn't have anyone correcting his finger position.

I'm not a classicist in fact. If you're Thelonius Monk go ahead and play, but in this same thread we have some people complaining of finger fatigue and cramps. That's something that a teacher can correct easily.

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On my resume I like to put everyone that plays piano isn't a Beethoven. There is a range between expert and those who don't even play. This is my excuse for being in IT but not well in programming.

Wait, you admit on your resume you’re not good at programming and still get programming jobs?

Not programming jobs but anything IT now is heavy on programming/scripting.

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> Sorry but I have to disagree a lot. And I have to disagree a lot with you. I had a piano teacher when I was young and that person put me off piano for the next 45 years or so. A good teacher will help you, a not so good teacher may well cause you to lose interest. Right now I'm practicing on my own, when I want, without a set schedule and without the goal of getting good enough to satisfy my - nonexistent - teacher…

Bad teachers are an issue, of course. But bad apps can be an issue too. No matter the method there's always the risk of not implementing it correctly. > their goals may not overlap with mine. That's a matter of talking with the teacher and setting down the goals. > Finally, not everybody learns in the same way and not everybody has your budget. My point is not "I did classes and I'm good now", is "I didn't do enough…

I think most people are more than mature enough to make their own decisions about what works for them and what doesn't. Good teachers are worth their weight in gold, but also, they cost money and if you are not doing this with a set goal of achieving a certain level but just enjoying yourself then that can be all the motivation that you need to keep going.

I'd advocate for the occasional review by a teacher to see whether you are picking up any bad habits but to most importantly focus on having fun so that you stay motivated. Nothing will kill interest in an instrument in the early stages of learning as much as drilling boring stuff, even if that has long term advantages, after all if there is no long term because of that then what's the point?

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Has someone here picked a musical instrument seriously for the first time in their 20s and managed to self learn? If yes, it would be helpful if you could point to resources that were helpful to you and any daily practice schedule you followed? I have tried learning piano and I found a lot of stuff irritatingly hard to get right and got bored. Like for some reason I am not able to transition to other keys well when I…

Learned Tabla (a South Asian percussion instrument) this year at age 31. A teacher is must. Not only does a good teacher give you customized advice on what to practice, based on your weaknesses, but is also able to tell you when you are ready to move on.

More precisely, a good teacher, will constantly keep you in the slightly uncomfortable phase of not too easy, not too difficult practice.

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