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The first person in the UK to have air pollution listed as a cause of death

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The real reason is that people are too poor to care about pollution or those dead people, same as anywhere else in the world. Actually, the poorer the country the less people care about the environment or infections. It's the same with covid too, it's the government which had to force close the economy.

What makes you think "people" have anything to do with deciding whether to do anything about air pollution? As I mentioned in another comment, no individual without billions of dollars behind them can do anything whatsoever about air pollution. Do you really think even, say, middle class Americans could take on the US government, one of the top 10 greenhouse gas polluters in the world? Maybe I'm just amplifying your…

When people are poor they don't care about the environment, it's a first world problem.

Without capitalism, the government is very unlikely to create wealth (look at China's PRC which had to embrace state capitalism to make money).

China, the largest polluter in the world, is an interesting example: despite their economic success, people's living conditions didn't improve as much and caring about the environment lagged behind the rest of the world.

Until ~2010 China's pollution was a state secret, now that there is a bit more wealth and citizens are more aware we can expect the PRC to do something about it.

Africa is another example of a poor, polluted country.

Ultimately, pollution can be a phase in a growing economy, but if you let technology to run its course, people will eventually move to non polluting tech - because they want to live in a nice world.

If you stop or regulate the economy, or try to come up with a solution, things will take much longer. Nuclear energy is a solution that, without political backslash, could have become our source of clean energy long ago.

Re: The first person in the UK to have air pollution listed as a cause of death

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Shameless plug, I've been working on a community air quality monitor for my little community https://millerbeach.community I live a few miles from steel mills, oil refineries, who take advantage of Lake Michigan, constantly polluting both air and water, occasionally dumping/"releasing" more toxic chemicals than permitted and don't raise the alarm for a few days: https://www.in.gov/idem/cleanwater/2576.htm , killing t…

Is your tech stack complicated for this? Id love to set this up with a raspberry pi out the window and broadcast the data like a local website..

No, not a complicated tech stack at all

Hardware: - PurpleAir PA-II (wifi) - FleetMon AIS (Ethernet) APIs: - Avaiation Edge API (Flights) - MapQuest API (Traffic) - forecast.io API (Weather) - etaspot.net (Trains) App: - node/express/vuejs app, pretty much all happens in this https://github.com/kingsloi/community-airmonitor/blob/master...

Re: The first person in the UK to have air pollution listed as a cause of death

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In 2011, I was in college in the UK, managed to score a year internship in Chesterton, IN, a few miles from Gary. Lived in Valparaiso while I worked in Chesterton. Revisited same city in 2016, met my now wife who is from Crown Point. We got married and rented from a friend in the Miller Beach community neighbourhood of Gary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_Beach , a block from some really wonderful beaches, dunes…

Well there go my theories about 76 trombones or Freddie Gibbs

I actually discovered Freddie when I lived here in 2011. Big fan! I fly TinyWhoop to Freddie's songs, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xCpyVrdt3c

Re: The first person in the UK to have air pollution listed as a cause of death

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In 2011, I was in college in the UK, managed to score a year internship in Chesterton, IN, a few miles from Gary. Lived in Valparaiso while I worked in Chesterton. Revisited same city in 2016, met my now wife who is from Crown Point. We got married and rented from a friend in the Miller Beach community neighbourhood of Gary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_Beach , a block from some really wonderful beaches, dunes…

Also from Valparaiso here, great to see others on HN from the area. If you're looking for a local meetup, we have a group that meets regularly -> https://valpohacks.com/ . Would love to learn more about your air quality site!

That's awesome! I'll join the Slack channel

Re: The first person in the UK to have air pollution listed as a cause of death

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Well there go my theories about 76 trombones or Freddie Gibbs

I actually discovered Freddie when I lived here in 2011. Big fan! I fly TinyWhoop to Freddie's songs, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xCpyVrdt3c

This makes me so happy and I can’t even put my finger on why
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