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Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

I've had Covid-19. As far as I know we still don't know if having it leads to immunity but wouldn't having it and recovering be "better" than a vaccine? If so, why get a vaccine for something you are immune to?

There are some diseases where the vaccine is more efficient at promoting an immune response than the actual disease.

Tetanus is the most well-known example here. That's why it makes sense to vaccinate you even after potential exposure.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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I think there's a difference between: (a) I WILL WAIT because I don't trust it yet, and (b) I WILL WAIT because I want to let the more at-risk people to have access it to first That seems to be lost in the poll

Or (c) I will tell everyone that I'm waiting so that more at-risk people can have access it to first, but secretly I'll be happy others are field-testing it for me...

That's similar to mine. I will get it as soon as I can, but I'm also glad that "when I can" is not "first".

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

#164

I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

Well, dunno if I should explain my reasoning but here goes...

For the same reason I never got a rabies vaccine until having to work in close proximity with rabid animals. Up until that point, my chances of dying from rabies were pretty slim to none.

Likewise, my chances of severe complications, death, or even experiencing any symptoms at all are slim to none. The at risk people around me will be likely vaccinated, so i'm not putting them at risk.

Now, the rabies vaccine came with some known risk, a bit higher than others, hence why it's only given to people who request it or need it.

This covid vaccine is brand new, rushed, the manufacturers are legally exempt from liability for damages the vaccines cause most places in the world and it's a mostly new technology not really tested or used before.

There are potential side effects, these side effects are potentially long term and severely debilitating and despite being a low risk, it's still a higher risk for me than experiencing anything terrible from covid.

So, why put myself at some unknown risk from some unknown thing over something that, is more than likely not, going to cause me severe problems?

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should be ashamed of trying to shame people into taking a new and still widely untested treatment. I've had Covid and we STILL don't even know if that makes a person immune. Has there ever been a case where a vaccine is MORE effective than actually getting and recovering from a virus? Seems like the latter would be "better" so why would I get a vaccine for something I am immune to?

> Has there ever been a case where a vaccine is MORE effective than actually getting and recovering from a virus? Eradication of diseases and massively decreased death counts due to vaccinations. That's a pretty strong argument to support the idea that the vaccine is more effective than letting a disease rip through a population.

I think you are misinterpreting their post.

They are saying that vaccine-induced immunity is not likely to be more effective than natural immunity (of which we are already uncertain about the effectiveness)

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

#166

I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

There are a lot of half-wits, especially in tech, who think reflexive contrarianism is a sure sign of intelligence and wisdom.

I'm imagining an anti-vaxx Bill Gates conspiracy theorist whose day job is a distinguished engineer at Microsoft.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A series of questions/answers I've had with doctors and nurses and quite a few intelligent and educated people. (PhD's, MD's and RN's included) Q: Does all medicine go through a rigorous efficacy testing that is certified by the FDA? A: Yes. Q: Do vaccines? A: No. Q: Why? A: It would be unethical. This is surprising to people who don't know how vaccines are made. edit: removed hyperbole

So what is the reason given for it being unethical? Of course I realize there is a tradeoff involved in delaying the rollout of a vaccine but I don't see how that is related to the way vaccines are made, specifically.

To truly prove the efficacy of a vaccine you would have to intentionally give a test subject the virus to see if the vaccine actually works.

It's not been done once by modern western medicine because it would be unethical by modern medical practices to intentionally infect a person.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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post #127

I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

I will take it after a year or two. The US did a great job at politicizing the virus such that I don't really trust that pharma companies actually did their due diligence with regard to testing and safety measures. I accept that doctors and scientists will take it under the guise of them "knowing it's safe", and I accept that lots of people will say "If they're doing it, you should too", but I think this strategy jus…

These things aren't cut and dry, but probably what you mean is that without the vaccine you're increasing the possibility of passing the disease on to at risk groups.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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post #152

I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

Right now its 310 YES to 39 NO. From what I've been reading in the (fake?) news, surveys and polls in the USA, I'm actually surprised to see so many yeses.

Well - The hacker news community is not even remotely representative of the U.S. population (nor typical pops in other countries I suspect). If you thought it was, then you'd think 90% of everyone in America voted for Biden. But it was much closer to 50-50. So these forums are only useful for understanding the positions of people on these sorts of forums.
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