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Re: Google Stories

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Post by dessant »

ehsankia wrote: post #155
dessant wrote: post #138

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> Something like AMP? This is literally AMP [1]. The feature was launched as AMP Stories, which has now been rebranded to Web Stories. They are throwing everything at the wall to increase the use of AMP. [1] https://amp.dev/about/stories/

This seems to be more focused on the distribution. The screenshot makes it seem like it'll be shown on Chrome's new tab page. So in some sense it is closer to Snapchat stories. It's basically stories in Chrome?

> This seems to be more focused on the distribution. The screenshot makes it seem like it'll be shown on Chrome's new tab page.

Yes, the point of AMP is for Google to control content distribution on the web, and they entice you to give up control over your content by offering you exposure, for now, just like they did with the Top Stories carousel in Google Search.

The irony of Top Stories is that it forced publishers to use AMP in order to regain the search results placement they already had, before Google took it away by pushing down search results to make room for the new carousel that featured AMP pages.

Re: Google Stories

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Post by searchableguy »

ilamont wrote: post #71
sktrdie wrote: post #52

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It’s pretty cool. If you make a url return data that is visually aligned with “a story protocol” google will put it at top of relevant search results. Think of it as a mini-html site that follows a specific set of visual JS and CSS protocols so that consumers have guarantee of its behavior (will not have crazy ads, gifs or third party content) and behaves consistently. Kind of interesting avenue for publishing conten…

> If you make a url return data that is visually aligned with “a story protocol” google will put it at top of relevant search results. Seems like it would be a magnet for low-value SEO content and outright scams.

It already is. The worst part about this is how google sends you a notification to check new stories they found. You need to disable that.

Re: Google Stories

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Post by pizza »

ljm wrote: post #80
sktrdie wrote: post #52

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It’s pretty cool. If you make a url return data that is visually aligned with “a story protocol” google will put it at top of relevant search results. Think of it as a mini-html site that follows a specific set of visual JS and CSS protocols so that consumers have guarantee of its behavior (will not have crazy ads, gifs or third party content) and behaves consistently. Kind of interesting avenue for publishing conten…

So, another AMP-style thing where Google uses their platform and network effect to further encroach on the open web and turn it into the Google web? The quote you see at first is: "Stories meet their widest audience ever." Given that the widest audience is anyone who wants to search for something, this seems like a massive anti-trust bait. Also, hard-pass on the continual dumbing down of content to contribute to the…

There really should be some kind of federated crawler + search platform. There's no reason why it should be reasonable that a private company (Google) succeeds in attaining its goal of organizing all the world's public information. Unfortunately it's very hard for me to see a revolution in people's choice of search engine..

Re: Google Stories

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Post by throwaway3699 »

joshstrange wrote: post #118
halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #113

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I wonder if Google’s turnover is such that when this does inevitably get shuttered, those who worked on it are still at Google.

If stories posted here on HN are to be believed, and I overall do believe them, then they are probably mostly still at google, they are just onto a new project. Google seems to prioritize and reward project completion (aka "shipping") more than long-term project successfulness. Also it's more advantageous to do whatever it takes to get a leg up and get promoted than it is to care about the long-term viability of a pr…

This definitely rings true in my experience, but I have to wonder what a better system would be for Google. Their leadership just isn't top down which means rewards have to hit some kind of decentralised target, launches being the most impactful.

Re: Google Stories

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Post by zaroth »

This is like Google found those click-bait stories about the person who discovered a hidden room in their house, where you have to keep clicking next to read another sentence of text because it generates more impressions.... and Google was jealous of the engagement stats and decided to copy it.

It would be really, really funny if it wasn't so horribly, horribly sad.

Re: Google Stories

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Post by tambeb »

reaperducer wrote: post #136
reidjs wrote: post #76

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I have yet to meet someone that uses bing, but maybe that’s just because I’m in the Silicon Valley bubble

I have yet to meet someone that uses bing, but maybe that’s just because I’m in the Silicon Valley bubble You might be surprised what Joe Average uses. I run into people who not only still use MapQuest, but use it as a verb.

MapQuest directions printed out at home before the trip?
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