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Re: A Brief Goodbye to CentOS

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Post by teh_klev » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 9:57 AM UTC

leotaku wrote: post #147

teh_klev wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a supercilious and condescending response, and verging on snark. Sure all software is likely to have bugs, but some software is likely to have less bugs because there's more test coverage or the software is conservative about what features get added/updated. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's…

Understood, I tried to be funny and failed. Will try to do better next time.

Maybe stick a ;) on the end to show a tongue in cheek comment :)

Re: A Brief Goodbye to CentOS

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Post by chmod775 » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 11:40 AM UTC

cactus2093 wrote: post #83

chmod775 wrote: post #2

Call me old fashioned, but I ship both my private projects and those at work as debian packages. Debian packages are trivial to put into a container, and we tried that, but honestly it's not half as nice to work with. With containers you have to do a ton of extra steps to get functionality and debugging on a level a default debian system provides you. Additionally the tools to automate the installation and configurat…

I guess call me new fashioned, but I've never really understood how to use debian packages well. I recall vaguely looking into the dpkg and build commands many years ago, it felt kind of inscrutable and clunky and I didn't find good resources that made it easy to learn so I just gave up on it and kept using the shell script to install the thing I needed with its dependencies. By contrast, docker build and docker run…

It's a mistake to assume that just because you're using docker, you now shouldn't bother understanding how (debian's) packaging works.

You're usually still installing packages and working with a debian/ubuntu/whatever distribution, except they're in a container now.

Docker is an additional abstraction layer one should understand, not a replacement for an existing one.

If you are used to dealing with debian packaging and running stuff directly on your server, using docker can feel like taking a step forward, but also two backwards. A few things are better, but a bunch are worse.

Re: A Brief Goodbye to CentOS

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Post by tekmonks » Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 10:17 AM UTC

We are creating the next RHEL based Enterprise Linux - same as CentOS used to be. Targeted first release is January 31, 2021.

Looking for both volunteers or people who want to be paid for their efforts. Join us to secure Enterprise Linux as a free (as in beer and freedom) for the foreseeable future.

https://monkos.org