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An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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oh damn. I've created an account for my newborn son on my (free) google workspace domain and send him emails every few weeks with updates and photos. He'll receive the account when he's like 12. Will these be deleted too?

It seems you need to actually use the tool, ie, this is a service they're offering, not something they (currently) do without active involvement.

On the other hand, they literally advertised this use case on tv. Kind of rude to make it not work.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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I’ve been very happy at Fastmail for the past few years. Their customer support has been quick and very helpful for me. It’s paid so I know that I am a customer and not a product. When I signed up I just forwarded my old gmail account to it. Now it sounds like I should finally update my email address for all the services still using it!

FastMail is probably the best among the bunch but it's still worse than GMail: - There is no "always display images from this contact" option if you don't want to load images automatically. You have to click on "show images" every time you read an emai, even from a trusted contact. - There is no "open mailto: links on FastMail" option on desktop. - Spam filter is too aggressive. I've missed too many legit mails while…

> There is no "always display images from this contact" option if you don't want to load images automatically. You have to click on "show images" every time you read an emai, even from a trusted contact.

Oh man, this is one feature that I've really missed from Gmail, which actually gives you the best of both worlds by proxying external images from their own servers so images can load automatically without compromising privacy.

Can't blame a small-time email provider like Fastmail from not offering something like this given the resources it'd likely require, but I'm using Microsoft's "enterprise" solution (Exchange Online) and they really have no excuses other than poor prioritization.

Anyone aware of other providers offering this feature?

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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From the email I got from Google a few minutes ago: > Summary of the new policies (effective June 1, 2021): > • If you're inactive for 2 years (24 months) in Gmail, Drive or Photos, we may delete the content in the product(s) in which you're inactive. Google One members who are within their storage quota and in good-standing will not be impacted by this new inactive policy. > • If you exceed your storage limit for 2…

Someone probably just ran the numbers and said we'd save X if we delete inactive users and users of the limit.

I think it's more like "we'd make X if we can push enough users to pay for a subscription". Unlikely that Google can't afford a few exabytes of memory.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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oh damn. I've created an account for my newborn son on my (free) google workspace domain and send him emails every few weeks with updates and photos. He'll receive the account when he's like 12. Will these be deleted too?

I don't know but I would suggest (at least) logging into the account and doing something (uploading a file, sending an email, etc.) every year.

I would also suggest yearly doing a full backup of the account:

https://takeout.google.com/settings/takeout

Gmail backup archives are easy enough to load and read in other email programs, if google's storage ever becomes unreliable for you.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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> "If you're over your storage limit for two years, Google may delete your content across Gmail, Drive and Photos," the company said. That's different from just deleting all your data because you're inactive. Which is it? Edit: it seems both. Here's the blog post (maybe this is a better link): https://blog.google/products/photos/storage-policy-update/

oh damn. I've created an account for my newborn son on my (free) google workspace domain and send him emails every few weeks with updates and photos. He'll receive the account when he's like 12. Will these be deleted too?

I'm not seeing the Inactive Account Manager on my paid Google Workspace account, so I don't think it applies there. If it does on legacy free domains, I'm guessing that you'll get a notice in one of the admin newsletters.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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The same happened to my old "...@hotmail.com" email, Microsoft deleted old childhood emails, still bitter about that. Per https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail... , the limit is 365 days of inactivity.

Also a massive security hole. I needed to do a password reset on my old ebay account, but the hotmail account it was attached to was deleted, so I just created a new hotmail account with the same name, and reset my password. I've done this maybe three or four time, because I haven't used hotmail since high school, so they keep deleting it. A lot of people also have password resets on gmail linked to their old hotmail…

I don't think Gmail allows this. I explicitly deleted all my old gmail addresses and moved back to my own mail servers in 2013 (due to Snowden/domestic spying .. sad how so few people did anything due to that) and I remember reading that once I deleted the e-mail address, I could never create it again. I made sure I had moved over all the accounts I cared about to my new e-mail address first.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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> "If you're over your storage limit for two years, Google may delete your content across Gmail, Drive and Photos," the company said. That's different from just deleting all your data because you're inactive. Which is it? Edit: it seems both. Here's the blog post (maybe this is a better link): https://blog.google/products/photos/storage-policy-update/

The original link should be replaced with this one. The original is clickbait

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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post #4

> "If you're over your storage limit for two years, Google may delete your content across Gmail, Drive and Photos," the company said. That's different from just deleting all your data because you're inactive. Which is it? Edit: it seems both. Here's the blog post (maybe this is a better link): https://blog.google/products/photos/storage-policy-update/

oh damn. I've created an account for my newborn son on my (free) google workspace domain and send him emails every few weeks with updates and photos. He'll receive the account when he's like 12. Will these be deleted too?

It seems like only if you are over storage.

Regardless, all you'd have to do is log into it once a year to avoid this. You should probably be backing it up externally at least this often if you care about the content...

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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post #4

> "If you're over your storage limit for two years, Google may delete your content across Gmail, Drive and Photos," the company said. That's different from just deleting all your data because you're inactive. Which is it? Edit: it seems both. Here's the blog post (maybe this is a better link): https://blog.google/products/photos/storage-policy-update/

Wow, 4.3 petabytes a day. Operating at Google's scale these days is just nuts.
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