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Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by chrisweekly »

greggman3 wrote: post #118
dvno42 wrote: post #19

I've been using this for a little over a year and like it a lot but it lacks the music discovery features of commercial platforms (which becomes important when you have terabytes of music) and takes a lot of effort to organize music and create play lists. The music onboarding process typically starts with organizing metadata with Musicbrainz Picard then import the collection into Funkwhale's DB via a cli admin tool.…

Which music service's discovery features actually work? For me the only one that worked was Google Play Music. The rest have been total and utter crap at discovery.

Spotify is outstanding in this regard. "Go to radio" from any given track or album; works every time. For even more passive discovery, their "discover weekly" and "release radar" do a good job of surfacing things too.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by IndySun »

adar wrote: post #150
IndySun wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note the word 'sell' in your remark.

I noted it when I typed it.

And?

So you are aware people sell things they make, to live? and they hope not to sell to just one person who's paying $1 to put it online for 100,000 people to have it not sold.

And that's ok with you because you don't, or don't need to, make a living creating music.

Try thinking about this from the perspective of whatever it is you do to make a living.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by herbstein »

birracerveza wrote: post #53
JacobSuperslav wrote: post #9

I know this kind of thing might not be very popular on HN, but I like their anti-meritocracy statement: https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/code-of-conduct

You like an ANTI -meritocracy statement? We truly have gone backwards.

The word 'meritocracy' was coined as a derogatory term about the education system in England in the 50s in a satirical text. It mocked the idea that such a thing could exist because the system obviously wasn't designed for it. If you value "intelligence", but only give rich people access to good education, then you've just created a two-step process that selects for rich people.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by IndySun »

LarvaFX wrote: post #76
cf_ wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the same could and has been said about YouTube-dl. It depends what you do with the tool. If you are using it to download videos that specifically allow this, then there is nothing illegal about it. It's the same thing with a hammer. You can use it for legal or illegal actions, but that doesn't make the hammer an illegal tool...

By watching videos or listening to videos, you make a non-digital copy of it in your mind! Is that legal? If you hum the song, is it illegal reproduction? If you describe the video to a friend, is that unauthorized reproduction? If you formulate a critique of it, is it an illegal derieved work? Who gets payed in these cases?

Here comes the hilarious twisted language to justify 'sharing'.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by captn3m0 »

commotionfever wrote: post #136
captn3m0 wrote: post #90

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Other players would use images embedded in cover-arts. Gonic only works with folder.jpg. I had cover.png files which Gonic ignored, so I had to hack around things. See https://github.com/sentriz/gonic/issues/11

hey thanks for your feedback! though it's strange that the scanner missed your artwork files. it should support lots of filetypes https://github.com/sentriz/gonic/blob/master/server/scanner/...

Will check and create an issue.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by tchaffee »

_jal wrote: post #158
tchaffee wrote: post #147

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> I just don't uncritically accept them, let alone act as a volunteer copyright-cop for them. It seems like you are implying I am. When all I'm trying to do is make sure musicians get fairly paid for their work. So yeah, I'm not super concerned about playing music loud in my car as you sarcastically suggested I should be. I am concerned about joining a music platform where something I purchased can be shared for free…

> It seems like you are implying I am. You are here talking down the tool and implying software you have not used is not legal while uncritically repeating their claims, which are more aggressive than many copyright lawyers believe is accurate. I'm sorry if you find my flip characterization uncharitable. If you need a less off-the-cuff one, you are uncritically lending your voice to the legacy copyright cartel's cont…

> you are uncritically lending your voice to the legacy copyright cartel's continuing attempts to monopolize music distribution.

Especially when I said this, right? "If there is a service that pays musicians directly and cuts out ASCAP and RIAA, then even better."

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

greggman3 wrote: post #118
dvno42 wrote: post #19

I've been using this for a little over a year and like it a lot but it lacks the music discovery features of commercial platforms (which becomes important when you have terabytes of music) and takes a lot of effort to organize music and create play lists. The music onboarding process typically starts with organizing metadata with Musicbrainz Picard then import the collection into Funkwhale's DB via a cli admin tool.…

Which music service's discovery features actually work? For me the only one that worked was Google Play Music. The rest have been total and utter crap at discovery.

> Which music service's discovery features actually work

My best experience has been talking with people or listening to artist interviews on influences.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by Findeton »

IndySun wrote: post #129
Findeton wrote: post #115

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Well I helped create the Spanish Pirate Party so I strongly believe Funkwhale is perfectly moral. If my idols want some money, I'll be happy to go to a concert or buy their music from their webpage (but I don't think Jimi Hendrix will complain much these days).

Idols? Famous guitarists that have bubbled under your nose? What about new guitarists?

Well if I am not listening to them why would they complain about me pirating their music?

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by rapnie »

chrisweekly wrote: post #161
greggman3 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which music service's discovery features actually work? For me the only one that worked was Google Play Music. The rest have been total and utter crap at discovery.

Spotify is outstanding in this regard. "Go to radio" from any given track or album; works every time. For even more passive discovery, their "discover weekly" and "release radar" do a good job of surfacing things too.

"discover weekly" was okay, but it is now completely broken to me. It suggests 80-90% of songs I already downloaded, and the remainder are always the same. Also discover weekly stops after, what, 2-3hrs of listening. Then the list is done and apparently Spotify thinks there's no more to discover.

Luckily indeed there's the radio feature.

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