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Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

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I wonder how the fact that this is a German company relates to people in the US always being told that they have to pay multiples of international drug prices so the US companies can do the research the rest of the world is not doing.

You don't think Americans buy drugs from German companies?

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#162
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I'm so proud of this as a turk living in EU.

I'm so proud of this as a German and Mainzer! Edit: To be clear: I am proud that it was Turkish immigrant's children who did this, and that Germany made it possible for them to do it.

I'm so proud as a human being.

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

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post #10

The headquarter of their company is only 10 miles from my home, in a university town, full of young people. So blessed that maybe a part of the solution to this crisis comes from "my" region.

Huh, neat. My father is from Mainz, and I still have family there (I'm Canadian). I've been over many times, last time for my Oma's funeral. My Opa worked for the city for decades, helped with post-war reconstruction, I believe the title was Baudirektor at some point, not clear. When I was 19 I went over for the first time and over several days he took me through the whole core of the city, building by building telling me the history of what was there before the war, what was there now, things he was involved in, where he went to school, his grandparents, their parents, and so on. Made a huge impression on me.

It's a lovely city.

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

#164
post #68

So I've heard this is will be the first mRNA vaccine on the market, ever. How worried should I be, given the political pressure to get a COVID19 vaccine to market as quickly as possible?

I wouldn't sorry too much. We understand a lot of old worries and so we know they don't apply. They have a lot of data from previous forms of this type of things suggesting it is safe. We know the that injected "things" break down very quickly in the body, which again makes us believe there won't be any long term problems. Of course in the end who knows. There could be something, and we may not know for 10 years. On…

Sadly we cannot confidently state anything about the long term effects. Maybe mRNA has some horrible long term side effect that shows after a year. It’s unlikely but we can’t say anything about long-term yet.

What we can say is that we need this pandemic squashed and it’s a risk we as a global population are ready to take.

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

#165

So I've heard this is will be the first mRNA vaccine on the market, ever. How worried should I be, given the political pressure to get a COVID19 vaccine to market as quickly as possible?

Disclaimer: It's late, and I need to confirm this statement from a immunology researcher in my network. If you are a R&D professional with the right expertise, please feel free to jump in.

There are two risks at hand here: (a) using the novel mRNA vaccine technology, and (b) using it with the SARS-CoV2 virus. While I can not say anything about the former, the aforementioned researcher in my network mentioned that as with Human papillomavirus (HPV) and other cancerogenic viruses, the SARS-CoV2 family might have tumor generating effects. Using it with a vaccine could be risky - getting infected could be risky, too.

> How worried should I be (...)

This is why we have multi stage clinical trials. Fast tracking a trial does not necessarily mean that it less testing will be done. On the contrary, the amount of resources behind these vaccine candidates are enormeous. Of course, long term effects are hard to catch. But the same applies for the long term effects of an SARS-CoV2 infection. Time and experiments will tell. Let's hope for the best.

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

#166
post #38

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Şahin was born in Iskenderun, Turkey or Syria before the Turkish/ Ottoman occupation.

The Ottoman empire ended in 1922. He's 55. That math just doesn't add up. Perhaps you mean the Turkish Republic?

İskenderun - and all of Hatay province - became part of Turkey just before the Second World War, so well after the end of the Ottoman Empire.

The math still doesn't add up though if Şahin is aged 55, since at the time of his birth it really was part of Turkey.

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

#167

I wonder how the fact that this is a German company relates to people in the US always being told that they have to pay multiples of international drug prices so the US companies can do the research the rest of the world is not doing.

You don't think Americans buy drugs from German companies?

They do. But a lot of Americans believe that drug prices here are so high because nowhere else in the world research is done.

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

#168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't think Americans buy drugs from German companies?

They do. But a lot of Americans believe that drug prices here are so high because nowhere else in the world research is done.

The reasoning I've heard (and I can't say I disagree with) is that if drug prices in the US weren't market driven, big pharma would have much smaller war chests to work with when it comes to R&D.

As in this case, where Pfizer specifically chose not to take any government support, supposedly because they wanted to avoid any bureaucratic delays.

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

#169

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Would you like to also know if a perpetrator was left-handed or ginger or blood type A? No. Because that doesn't matter. Just as ethnicity doesn't matter. Criminal is a criminal.

Governments are able to choose which nationalities are allowed entry via immigration policy. Some might find criminal representation very relevant to that policy decision. Perhaps you do not. That’s certainly your prerogative. But outright denying the relevance is absurd.

I'm not claiming it itrelevant to law enforcement. It's irrelevant to (or shoudld be irrelevant to bon-racist) news recipient.

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

#170

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I don't think open exchange of people is useful, or ever has been. What has helped the U.S.'s "success" (in kicking ass, generally speaking) is one-way brain-draining of other countries.

There are many people in science who go to the US for research for a couple of years and then go back home - and people from the US going abroad to escape uncertain funding, enjoy new perspectives (CERN!) or the myriad of other issues that the US has (healthcare, discrimination, public schools, transportation).

Those people leaving the U.S. doesn't benefit the U.S.

And the U.S. has excellent healthcare, public schools, and transportation for anybody who's productive.

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