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Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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post #116

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Yes? That sounds about right.

Which makes it kind of a pointlessly obtuse metric. To claim a device has negative months of support.

It's not pointless at all. It accurately reflects the situation of buying a device off the shelf long after its official end of life.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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This is just great, and you see why it's so hard to be a product manufacturer. Not only does the person not understand why it was done, and that it produced a phone that would be functional for longer lifetime than if it hadn't been implement, but he also continues spreading unhelpful information to others.

>but he also continues spreading unhelpful information to others. They were forced to pay over 500 Million Dollars for doing it

That doesn't mean the penalty made sense.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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post #136

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> I think it's more likely that Apple's new frameworks don't require any fancy hardware features Mojave and higher isn’t “supported” on the cheese grater Mac Pro’s despite it running more than fine, including with FileVault 2 enabled on the boot volume (which an Apple exec tried to claim was technically not possible).

> Mojave and higher isn’t “supported” on the cheese grater Mac Pro The 2010 and 2012 Mac Pros officially support Mojave with a compatible video card: Install macOS 10.14 Mojave on Mac Pro (Mid 2010) and Mac Pro (Mid 2012) https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208898

Yeah, my sentence structure leaves a bit to be desired. The key there is including FileVault being enabled.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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The problem with these updates is that it's only for devices that can only support up to iOS 12 (in this case) - if you have another device that supports anything higher but don't want upgrade to the latest iOS, you still won't get these iOS 12 security updates - they force you to upgrade the entire OS to get them.

You're literally saying you have the ability to update, but don't want to, and so it's unfair you can't update.

Not exactly - more like being denied the ability to not have a specific OS version forced on someone if they want their device to stay secured.

Being able to stay secured with the latest patches shouldn’t require one to be forced to get the unwanted memory/resource hogging “features” of newer OS releases.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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post #103

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The US isn't representative of the rest of the world in this regard. That's why any discussion of iMessage is filled with half the people arguing that iMessage it the best thing since sliced bread (Americans) and the other half saying they never use it.

Do Americans really represent half of smart phone users? I would though it to be smaller than that given the population of the planet.

I was meaning HN users. In those discussions, it feels like about half are Americans. You’re right if we’re talking about overall users.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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post #117

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Galaxy S8 on sale at Walmart, Staples, and NewEgg. Likely falls off support in 3-4 months. So Android flagships are close to zero or even negative support time?

This is what got me to finally switch to Apple. Updates take forever. I bought a Samsung off Amazon for testing and for some reason I still have to wait on T-Mobile. And then after a year, maybe two, there just aren’t anymore updates.

This is why I switched to Pixel. 3 years of full updates. And you can then switch to LineageOS if you'd like as well.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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>I turned off this feature when they shipped the option and promptly turned it back on. They didn't add that option until AFTER being caught

I disagree with the framing suggested by the word “caught.” After they were sued, they shipped this option, I tried it, it sucks.

having to pay out over 500 Million Dollars says otherwise.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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I'd like to give kudos to Apple for including the iPhone 5S in this security update, which was released on September 20, 2013, over 7 years ago! Supporting a product for even 3 years is rare in the smartphone world.

This is what I try to explain when it comes to "why are you paying so much for Apple". Because when you buy a cheap Android phone from Xuoiamiaeoi or whatever, you get some custom crippled OS in god knows what ways in close to 0 long-term support from them.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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Comparatively, no. Android phones generally get a maximum of 3 years of security updates from launch, not from last device sale date. So, within mobile phones, it's more informative to compare it to their competition. It shows you just how much better Apple is at mobile device support compared to everyone else.

Well, you still get updates through the store way longer than 3 years. With more and more components (e.g. the browser) coming through the store, the picture is not as black and white anymore.

Are you talking about OS level updates or just updates for individual apps?

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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This is just great, and you see why it's so hard to be a product manufacturer. Not only does the person not understand why it was done, and that it produced a phone that would be functional for longer lifetime than if it hadn't been implement, but he also continues spreading unhelpful information to others.

>but he also continues spreading unhelpful information to others. They were forced to pay over 500 Million Dollars for doing it

They were forced to pay that for not saying that they were doing it.

The feature still exists today. The brand new iPhone 12 will do the same thing on a degraded battery.

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