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Re: No More Google

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Post by avip »

jason0597 wrote: post #34

These anti-Google discussions come and go on the front page of Hacker News, but I'd be curious to know how many people actually degoogle their lives drastically after reading such discussions and articles. I believe it's more of a case of "Oh my god, Google is so disgusting! Shame on Google!", and then people open up a new tab in Chrome to search on Google about their next restaurant destination as if nothing happene…

I'd definitely fall into that box. But that website helped me understand why, other than being a lazy bum, I keep use google things. It's because:

1. Google has great products and they are "free". Airtable a drop-in for G-sheets? Count me out.

2. This is the sneaky part - zero onboarding friction. Want to try notion? Need to "sign up" or watch stupid video. Try google docs? COMMAND+L + doc.new

Re: No More Google

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Post by freediver »

jason0597 wrote: post #34

These anti-Google discussions come and go on the front page of Hacker News, but I'd be curious to know how many people actually degoogle their lives drastically after reading such discussions and articles. I believe it's more of a case of "Oh my god, Google is so disgusting! Shame on Google!", and then people open up a new tab in Chrome to search on Google about their next restaurant destination as if nothing happene…

Degoogling your life is incredibly hard because no competitor offers one-stop shop replacement for Google services.

In order for a competitor to do so they need to first tackle search (the hardest part) but also think holistically about replacing other big "points of contact" like Browser or Email. Because Google is not just search; Google has become the infrastructure of the web.

Re: No More Google

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Post by Retric »

jason0597 wrote: post #34

These anti-Google discussions come and go on the front page of Hacker News, but I'd be curious to know how many people actually degoogle their lives drastically after reading such discussions and articles. I believe it's more of a case of "Oh my god, Google is so disgusting! Shame on Google!", and then people open up a new tab in Chrome to search on Google about their next restaurant destination as if nothing happene…

I don’t think there significant loss from abandoning Google, I stopped without really noticing any negatives. Gmail, Chrome, and Google Search used to have a significant advantage, but like most near monopolies Google stagnated without stiff competition and are from my perspective sub par at this point.

Give it another 3-5 years and they might turn it around, but as far as I can tell their still costing on reputation at this point.

Re: No More Google

#164

Post by ttt0 »

pb7 wrote: post #84

Hacker News is incredibly biased against Google. There was recently an informal survey[0] in "Tech Twitter" (i.e. other technical people) regarding opinions about the top tech companies and Google scored second highest overall behind Apple, with something like 85-90% positivity overall across different questions. Facebook, for reference, was something like 35-40%. [0] https://coda.io/@sriram-krishnan/2020-state-of-th…

The objective reality exists and there are legitimate reasons for people wanting to have nothing to do with this company. Not everything is a bias.

Re: No More Google

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Post by wetpaws »

jason0597 wrote: post #34

These anti-Google discussions come and go on the front page of Hacker News, but I'd be curious to know how many people actually degoogle their lives drastically after reading such discussions and articles. I believe it's more of a case of "Oh my god, Google is so disgusting! Shame on Google!", and then people open up a new tab in Chrome to search on Google about their next restaurant destination as if nothing happene…

I've started switching to u2f as my main method of authentication and 3rd party password manager instead of google's chrome one.

Those might be small steps, but the thoughts of google closing my account are filling me with genuine terror.

Re: No More Google

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Post by dorkinspace »

syjer wrote: post #95
wobblykiwi wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Play Music is shutting down. I haven't checked recently, but did they update Youtube Music to allow personal uploads?

Yes you can upload: https://support.google.com/youtubemusic/answer/9716522?hl=en . The UI/UX of youtube music is lacking compared to GPM, but at least the file locker functionality that I use is still here.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that you can upload your music to YTM but it isn't seamlessly integrated into your listened experience like it is on GPM.

Is that right? If so, that is losing the best aspect of GPM.

Re: No More Google

#167

Post by [deleted] »

Normal_gaussian wrote: post #112
pb7 wrote: post #84

Hacker News is incredibly biased against Google. There was recently an informal survey[0] in "Tech Twitter" (i.e. other technical people) regarding opinions about the top tech companies and Google scored second highest overall behind Apple, with something like 85-90% positivity overall across different questions. Facebook, for reference, was something like 35-40%. [0] https://coda.io/@sriram-krishnan/2020-state-of-th…

Or perhaps those on your twitter are incredibly biased towards Google? Twitter is repeatedly presented as a general sentiment test, yet this is just not true. Also, what on Earth is "Tech Twitter"? My forays (now abandoned as fruitless) into twitter show it as dispersed as any other social media group - if not more so. I can't imagine anyone being able to run a cross-sectional survey of 'tech' over twitter without ma…

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Re: No More Google

#168

Post by blunte »

lwigo wrote: post #100
blunte wrote: post #58

Seeing Notion ranked so highly makes me wonder what other people do that's so different from me. I try to like it (I was an early paid adopter, and now my company uses it so I must too), but there are so many points of friction that most of my effort is spent fighting it rather than using it. Does the general typing latency not bother people? There's a noticeable delay between pressing a key and seeing a character ap…

They seem to have a very active marketing team. There was even a post on HN about "onboarding" onto Notion recently.

From an investor standpoint, a marketing-first, usability-second (third, fourth maybe?) approach is clearly best. All you need to focus on is that next round of funding that pays off the previous round with a nice profit.

Re: No More Google

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Post by grey_earthling »

avip wrote: post #161
jason0597 wrote: post #34

These anti-Google discussions come and go on the front page of Hacker News, but I'd be curious to know how many people actually degoogle their lives drastically after reading such discussions and articles. I believe it's more of a case of "Oh my god, Google is so disgusting! Shame on Google!", and then people open up a new tab in Chrome to search on Google about their next restaurant destination as if nothing happene…

I'd definitely fall into that box. But that website helped me understand why, other than being a lazy bum, I keep use google things. It's because: 1. Google has great products and they are "free". Airtable a drop-in for G-sheets? Count me out. 2. This is the sneaky part - zero onboarding friction. Want to try notion? Need to "sign up" or watch stupid video. Try google docs? COMMAND+L + doc.new

https://doc.new leads to a sign up page for me.

Maybe Gmail was a trojan horse for Google accounts.

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