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A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by phasetransition »

StreamBright wrote: post #91
ramraj07 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And clearly a message from the dude selling them not to do it: >Peeked at reddit for a moment before I fall asleep and one of our items is on the front page! I'm a product expert at the WebstaurantStore. Folks, I know this looks wonderful and all, but, as a rule, we really don't recommend putting commercial appliances in home kitchens. There are many things on our website that are fantastic for home use, but bad and…

Like what exactly? I am curious. Is this happening because if everybody was buying industrial dish washers an entire industry was going down or there are legitimate problems?

Further up the thread here I mention a friend with a Hobart professional under sink dishwasher unit in his home

Follow the clearances, supply the 240V 50 amp power, install a catch pan under it, soften the water if needed, etc. None of it rocket science if you are mechanically-minded, but requires to educate yourself and pay attention.

My friend is from a large family, and they had a proper commercial kitchen in their house growing up, so no big deal for him.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by crumbshot »

> She designed her first model in the shed behind her house in Shelbyville, Ill. Her lack of formal engineering education, however, became an obstacle, so she sought out someone who could help. Mechanic George Butters agreed to assist her in building the prototype.

So the engineer did all the actual hard work here in coming up with a working prototype, but the wealthy funder takes almost all of the credit, and puts the patent solely in their name.

A much fairer framing would be that the two of them were co-inventors.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by bluGill »

prawn wrote: post #147

It amazes me that after widespread adoption of dishwashers, we still build very customised bathrooms into houses that require manual labour to clean each surface - tiles/grout, basins, benchtops, toilets, floors, etc. A bathroom that could be sealed and cleaned as though it was a dishwasher would be great. For everything but the toilet, lightly pressured spray of hot water would probably be sufficient. Throw the towe…

Self cleaning toilets exist https://www.americanstandard-us.com/bathroom/toilets/acticle... I don't know if they work well or not.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by prawn »

bluGill wrote: post #163
prawn wrote: post #147

It amazes me that after widespread adoption of dishwashers, we still build very customised bathrooms into houses that require manual labour to clean each surface - tiles/grout, basins, benchtops, toilets, floors, etc. A bathroom that could be sealed and cleaned as though it was a dishwasher would be great. For everything but the toilet, lightly pressured spray of hot water would probably be sufficient. Throw the towe…

Self cleaning toilets exist https://www.americanstandard-us.com/bathroom/toilets/acticle... I don't know if they work well or not.

I had checked reviews earlier and there are a lot of critics. Without a mechanical scrub, I don't know that you'd dislodge everything either.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by bluGill »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #121
Xcelerate wrote: post #22

I find that recent models of dishwashers don’t work nearly as well as older models. They don’t heat up enough to dry water off of plastic, and the enzyme based detergents don’t seem to clean as well as the old phosphate detergents. Also, the dishwasher in our current apartment (a cheap Whirlpool) often leaves a wet dog smell on the glasses, and we can’t figure out where it comes from or how to get rid of it. Apparent…

It's in the name of energy ratings; using less water at a colder temperature will reduce energy usage. As for the smell "wet dog smell" is usually mold; rinse your plates of food remains before putting it in the dishwasher, clean out your filters regularly (not as necessary if you rinse beforehand), and run a hot, empty cycle with soda crystals. Also, leave it open to air out if it's not running (doesn't need to be o…

If I need to rinse my dishes before hand that defeats the purpose. I'm 90% done with hand washing at that point so I may as well do it all by hand

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by bluGill »

leadingthenet wrote: post #101
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any environmental gains of using a dishwasher?

Yes. It uses dramatically less water than washing by hand, if you have a full load.

Unless you rinse first, then hand washing is less water.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by microcolonel »

porknubbins wrote: post #6
NikolaeVarius wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the calculus changes when more than one person eating is involved, especially when the ratio skews more eating than washing

Two people in a small apartment and currently spend 15-20 minutes a day hand washing but I feel like its right on the line where 3 or more people it is clearly faster to machine wash.

I tend to wash the cookware while I'm cooking, and wash my dishes when I'm done, rather than letting them pile up. It takes a handful of seconds each time, and they're often seconds I can't spend anywhere else to begin with.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by je_bailey »

crumbshot wrote: post #162

> She designed her first model in the shed behind her house in Shelbyville, Ill. Her lack of formal engineering education, however, became an obstacle, so she sought out someone who could help. Mechanic George Butters agreed to assist her in building the prototype. So the engineer did all the actual hard work here in coming up with a working prototype, but the wealthy funder takes almost all of the credit, and puts t…

No. She came up with the idea, she built the prototype, she had the vision. To name some lackey who only did what they were told an inventor is a disservice.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by bluGill »

kgermino wrote: post #149
tasuki wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I live alone, and still find the dishwasher to be the most useful appliance in my house. More useful than the washing machine?

I’d much prefer going to the laundromat over not having a dishwasher.

As a single person I preferred the laundromat. I could use 3-6 machines at a time and everything was done fast. I owned enough cloths for a full load of each, and so I only had to do this once a month.

As a married person with family we are doing laundry all the time anyway and so having it in the house is an advantage.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by Aerroon »

copperx wrote: post #64
andai wrote: post #55

Does anyone have experience with big industrial dishwashers? We had one at a school I visited, based in an old military barracks. It was about the size of a large fridge, extremely loud (used high pressure) and cleaned dishes spotless in about 15 seconds. I've wanted one of those ever since, along with one of those giant laundromat washing machines with shock absorbers that run a spin cycle in complete silence.

There's a blog post somewhere in the web of someone that installed a commercial dishwasher in his kitchen. It requires 220 V and uses an enormous amount of power, but it cleans a load in 90 seconds.

However, does it use more or less power than a regular dishwasher in aggregate? My understanding is that a regular dishwasher takes a while to run. I've never owned one, so I don't really know.
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