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Re: Chromecast with Google TV

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Post by criddell »

anoncareer0212 wrote: post #151
criddell wrote: post #112

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I think you're right about the attitude among techies - especially those around San Francisco - and I think that's part of the reason why our reputation is in decline. A lot of America sees us as a bunch of creeps spying on everything they do and they aren't wrong about that. Video records are a special class of data covered by the Video Privacy Protection Act. The tangible cost is the risk that your viewing history…

To put it more plainly: Americans love tech and trust it, and not so oddly, in reverse order of how _tech people_ appreciate the companies. Look at these ratings, theyre in direct contradiction with your guess of what they are as well as your thesis: Amazon and Google both have above 90% trust, Apple has 81%. I've meditated on them a lot, and came to the conclusion there's a lot of class issues in tech spaces, and a…

I'm assuming you put sold in quotation marks because you are being generous and are really talking about disclosure in a broad sense.

Maybe those 90% haven't read stories like this one (which is about Facebook):

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46618582

Or maybe they've never heard of a data broker? To be clear, I don't think Google sells user data, but do they share it with anybody like Facebook has a history of doing? That I'm not clear about. I think they may share it with other Alphabet companies. I think they do buy data from brokers.

Re: Chromecast with Google TV

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Post by koiz »

v7p1Qbt1im wrote: post #136
anderspitman wrote: post #55

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Curious what the shortcomings of Roku are for you? I'm not a heavy user but my ultra has been great.

Not OP but I find the interface to be quite ugly and dated. Also some apps are missing (might be a region issue, though). Google TV seems to be the most complete solution now. Next to Apple TV and Shield.

Bingo! The UI isn't the best and it does feel sluggish at times switching between things.

Also I really don't enjoy the Roku Ads and feel like that's just going to get worse.

Re: Chromecast with Google TV

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Post by ignoramous »

cobookman wrote: post #123
ignoramous wrote: post #64

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"Android TV" is literally any smart TV that runs Android with Google's blessing. Analogous with "Android phone". Chromecast with Google TV is more in line with Apple TV, FireTV, and the now discontinued Nexus TV.

I'm totally confused. So I have an Nvidia Shield that I bought a few years back. How is this different?

Nvidia Shield is in direction competition with Chromecast with Google TV.

Usually, the actual TVs that run Android are marketed as "Android TVs". It looks like streaming devices like Nvidia Sheild do so too when they're in fact not "Android TVs".

Re: Chromecast with Google TV

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Post by mikecoles »

andrew_ wrote: post #113
Someone1234 wrote: post #66

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Combing both Chromecast and Android TV (e.g. Nvidia Shield) has a less than 10% market share. Making it smaller than Samsung, Amazon, and much smaller than Roku (market leader). It seems to have a hardcore audience that think the world of it (or who haven't tried anything else), but most of the market moved on years ago. If anything this Google TV "Chromecast" is designed to make Chromecast relevant again.

Chromecast is still a hit with anyone who torrents or streams live TV from local sources, and VLC users.

I'm not believing it. Those folks are using Android boxes, but they're not from Google.

I'm sure someone followed instructions they found on Medium and want to show it off to their friends. That's fine. Those aren't the majority of users though.

For half the price of a Chromecast, Android STBs are the 'hit'.

Re: Chromecast with Google TV

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Post by mikecoles »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #67
Someone1234 wrote: post #66

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Combing both Chromecast and Android TV (e.g. Nvidia Shield) has a less than 10% market share. Making it smaller than Samsung, Amazon, and much smaller than Roku (market leader). It seems to have a hardcore audience that think the world of it (or who haven't tried anything else), but most of the market moved on years ago. If anything this Google TV "Chromecast" is designed to make Chromecast relevant again.

I've heard that outside the US, Android TV is very successful.

Android, yes. Google, no.

There are so many knockoffs of knockoffs of Android STBs that you usually pick them up for < $30.

Re: Chromecast with Google TV

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Post by agloeregrets »

candiddevmike wrote: post #107

I would love for them to open this up to more android apps and support bluetooth pairing. This would be a hit if you could use Steam Link or Xbox Game Streaming.

It does all of that actually. Has the play store, any AndroidTV apps work, they just need to list them. However, those apps can be sideloaded. The Type C power port is also USB-C input :) just add a Hub.

Re: Chromecast with Google TV

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Post by andrew_ »

mikecoles wrote: post #164
andrew_ wrote: post #113

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Chromecast is still a hit with anyone who torrents or streams live TV from local sources, and VLC users.

I'm not believing it. Those folks are using Android boxes, but they're not from Google. I'm sure someone followed instructions they found on Medium and want to show it off to their friends. That's fine. Those aren't the majority of users though. For half the price of a Chromecast, Android STBs are the 'hit'.

most of my friends are not into tech, yet they all own chromecast for exactly the reasons I cited. your milage may vary, but you have no reason not to believe it.

Re: Chromecast with Google TV

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Post by 555513 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #66
tehlike wrote: post #45

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don't know about google tv, but chromecast is wildly successful.

Combing both Chromecast and Android TV (e.g. Nvidia Shield) has a less than 10% market share. Making it smaller than Samsung, Amazon, and much smaller than Roku (market leader). It seems to have a hardcore audience that think the world of it (or who haven't tried anything else), but most of the market moved on years ago. If anything this Google TV "Chromecast" is designed to make Chromecast relevant again.

Android TV is used by more than 160 operators worldwide, more than 150 TV brands and 80 retail devices.

That's not an "hardcore audience" to me. https://www.androidtv-guide.com/

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