Good riddance. They should go to the US, Pakistan and Sweden and crib and cry about the state of minorities there. All the best to them!
Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal
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This is a weird claim. I have never seen any healthy mind supports Varna system in India. Only few delusioned imagine that someone is working towards it. Come on guys!
No it is not. This is core principle of RSS https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/seeing-the-invisib...
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#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Hindu nationalism is just like any nationalism. There is a fundamental difference Indian nationalism and other countries nationalism. Indian nationalism is all about bringing back the "varna system" which advocates stratification of society based on the birth and access to education is only allowed for the brahmins(priestly caste). This was the system implemented strictly before the Britishers arrived to India. No…
>> which advocates stratification of society based on the birth Not a unique to Indian nationalism. American nationalism is very similar. See the "birther" movement. Or the president's push to withdraw birth right citizenship, a concept that would deny far more than just education. Or the references to "anchor babies". The location of one's birthplace, and the birthplace of one's parents, is of fundamental importance…
Lol comparing India's traditional caste system to the Constitution's requirement that the President be a natural born citizen -- the only role in our government like this -- is a real stretch. So is the birthright citizenship, something only common in the New World to begin with.
Give me a break.
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#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> which advocates stratification of society based on the birth Not a unique to Indian nationalism. American nationalism is very similar. See the "birther" movement. Or the president's push to withdraw birth right citizenship, a concept that would deny far more than just education. Or the references to "anchor babies". The location of one's birthplace, and the birthplace of one's parents, is of fundamental importance…
Ironic given that Donald Trumps grandfather was an immigrant - and German immigrants where subject to discrimination.
It's only ironic if you think castes are somehow equivalent to allowing the grandson of an immigrant to run a country.
It's not ironic. It's not even relevant.
This site sometimes and its weird desire to turn every discussion into one that is critical of the US or Trump.
Yeah keep pressing the downvote button and I'll keep using carrier grade NAT to make new accounts. Fuck you anti American assholes.
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Hindu nationalism is just like any nationalism. There is a fundamental difference Indian nationalism and other countries nationalism. Indian nationalism is all about bringing back the "varna system" which advocates stratification of society based on the birth and access to education is only allowed for the brahmins(priestly caste). This was the system implemented strictly before the Britishers arrived to India. No…
Not discounting the negative effects of the nationalism, but I don't think caste system is behind the current rise of nationalism. The prime minister himself is from the lower caste.
Would it surprise you to hear that there are many women in India who support for existing misogynistic aspects of traditional culture?
It's hard for people to understand how deeply woven caste-based motivations are in Indian society. At a large scale it may seem like some globally stratified layer cake. On the ground, it devolves into regional tribes.
The "caste associations" rural people associate themselves with in rural areas are loosely formed tribes of 10 thousand to 100-thousand strong members.
The perspective of many who choose to be invested in this system - which is most people living in those areas (what else are you gonna do? not support your tribe? who else is gonna have your back if there's trouble?) - is one of trying to gain status for their caste/tribe over others.
Caste rivalries are often regional, and localized.
Identifying India's current PM as not coming from one of the well-recognized "higher castes" is really meaningless. It'd be sort of like saying "yeah, this politician is unlikely to be a hardline christian dominionist, he's a 7-th day adventist, which is clearly a minority sect".
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or is it that the monopoly of leftists over "the truth" is falling apart.
What is the "the truth"
Leftists lost their control over the global (and local) narrative with the rise of social media. So, now they have to hide behind the disguise of NGO's to push their narrative because nobody trusts their news.
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#167Hindu nationalism is just like any nationalism. It harms liberties. India: Arrests of Activists Politically Motivated https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/09/16/india-arrests-activists-... Under Modi, India's Press Not Free Anymore https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/world/asia/modi-india-pre... Critics of India’s Modi Government Face Sedition Charges https://thediplomat.com/2020/03/critics-of-indias-modi-gover... Is free sp…
The field of Political Science does not treat nationalism as inherently bad, nor does it use "nationalism" and "ethnic nationalism" interchangeably. There are a million real-life examples of even ethnic nationalism that people generally consider good.
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#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ironic given that Donald Trumps grandfather was an immigrant - and German immigrants where subject to discrimination.
It's only ironic if you think castes are somehow equivalent to allowing the grandson of an immigrant to run a country. It's not ironic. It's not even relevant. This site sometimes and its weird desire to turn every discussion into one that is critical of the US or Trump. Yeah keep pressing the downvote button and I'll keep using carrier grade NAT to make new accounts. Fuck you anti American assholes.
I hope you get the help that you need.
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#169I read in another thread. reproducing the comments here for balanced point of view. "If more than 20% of your funds goes to administrative expenses (office supplies, stationary, tea/coffee, misc), you know there is something shady. Satyam computers, did the same thing, created fake employees, posted huge expenses under admin category for almost 5 years. Later it was found that they were laundering money for YSR from…
In the US, <15% admin expense is considered good for a charity, and in the US admin expense also include rent, business services (accounting, legal, IT), and leadership costs (for a small org, the leader might be categorized as management but actually be providing services).
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Hindu nationalism is just like any nationalism. There is a fundamental difference Indian nationalism and other countries nationalism. Indian nationalism is all about bringing back the "varna system" which advocates stratification of society based on the birth and access to education is only allowed for the brahmins(priestly caste). This was the system implemented strictly before the Britishers arrived to India. No…
>> which advocates stratification of society based on the birth Not a unique to Indian nationalism. American nationalism is very similar. See the "birther" movement. Or the president's push to withdraw birth right citizenship, a concept that would deny far more than just education. Or the references to "anchor babies". The location of one's birthplace, and the birthplace of one's parents, is of fundamental importance…
Birthright citizenship is pretty unique to America though. Nowhere in Europe you would find such a thing, although most people won't count Germany, France, Netherlands, Sweden etc. as human right violators.