Facebook Accused of Watching Instagram Users Through Cameras

Post by hwbehrens » Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 4:55 PM UTC

reaperducer wrote: post #147

qwertox wrote: post #50

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There could be an industry wide agreement to reserve the top two pixel rows for realtime visual feedback of sensor use. 1st quarter of the display refers to the microphone, 2nd to the camera, 3rd to GPS and so on, with standardized ways of notifying what is happening, ie blinking means it's currently active, red that it has been used at least once during the last 5 minutes or so, with more detailed information in the…

There could be an industry wide agreement to reserve the top two pixel rows for realtime visual feedback of sensor use. Apple already has this. Little orange dot indicates audio. There's a blue arrow for location access. I don't know if there's something for video or not. You can then go into the Settings app and see which apps were using those features.

Post by heimatau » Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 4:57 PM UTC

emsy wrote: post #13

Let’s assume for a moment the story turns out to be true: would people stop using Instagram because of it?looking at the history of privacy violations and the market’s responds to it I doubt it. There is a minority of users who will feel rightfully violated in their privacy (imagine browsing instagram naked while possibly being ogled at by some creep at FB). The worst that will happen is that FB will be sanctioned to…

Post by kennywinker » Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 5:00 PM UTC

angel_j wrote: post #155

parliament32 wrote: post #140

On a side note, IG works perfectly fine being denied the Camera permission. In fact, it doesn't even complain about it until you try to take a picture in-app... and most users' workflow is taking pics with their phone's camera app (which is almost always better than IG's) and uploading the actual files to IG (you can still apply filters and everything else this way).

It doesn't need access to your photo library either. Imagine giving access to your whole roll!

Post by rocketmaster1 » Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 5:04 PM UTC

numpad0 wrote: post #106

rmrfstar wrote: post #95

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> Being lawful-evil person The word you are looking for is "sociopath". Oliver Wendell Holmes' "bad man" is an analytical tool, not a recommendation. There's nothing inherently evil about the mood-detection feature you have described, provided it is deployed with continuing and informed consent from the user. The feature is already deployed on billboards in public spaces, although this instantiation is evil as "users…

Existing implementations only detect moods and collect data for analysis, my idea is if you're just going to do open-loop brainwashing, you don't have to know users at all so it could be done without "invading privacy". > sociopath ok, I mean no harm to humanity, but, um,

Post by switch11 » Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 5:08 PM UTC

rbg246 wrote: post #54

can16358p wrote: post #9

Don't want to be the devil's advocate here but just because camera is on doesn't mean anything is being recorded. As an iOS developer who worked with apps that access camera frequently, I can confidently say that it's just a UX optimization. Starting the camera takes a brief few hundred milliseconds which is easily noticable from a user perspective. By keeping the camera ready, they are making the experience smoother…

So you are saying.. A developer went to their tech lead and said 'hey we can make the app much better by leaving the camera on all the time saves 200ms on camera startup time' Tech lead: this is brilliant no potential problems here Tech lead to management team: got this great new feature, we leave the camera on all the time makes the app 200ms faster. Management: wow that's great can't see any problem with that, no c…