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The Pentagon has ordered Stars and Stripes to shut down

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Re: The Pentagon has ordered Stars and Stripes to shut down

#161

"Stars and Stripes embodies that most American of values: the right to speak truth to power." Which is the last the thing current administration wants anyone to be able to do.

Trump just tweeted that he won't let this happen.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/13019688734875648...

Re: The Pentagon has ordered Stars and Stripes to shut down

#162
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you consider an unbiased/bs-free source of news? Or where do you prefer to get your news from?

Unbiased news sources don't exist in today's world. It's up to you and your critical thinking to digest all this bs and come up with your own conclusions. What I'm saying is journalism shouldn't be about convincing you or reinforcing a point of view. It's about presenting facts without bias to let the consumer make up their own mind. That doesn't exist in today's over-charged political environment, which is a whole o…

> about presenting facts without bias to let the consumer make up their own mind. That doesn't exist in today's over-charged political environment, which is a whole other discussion.

I see this card being played to justify how they ignore and cherry-pick facts that suits their personal agenda, because they treasure their tribal view of politics over making informed, rational decisions.

Re: The Pentagon has ordered Stars and Stripes to shut down

#163
post #87

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I think that's just the nature of government. If a large enough force acts, it's very easy to tear down such an abstract system.

In all honesty it doesn't even have to be large, it suffices to be powerful. Like the President. If you're the president, you don't really need the 535 people from congress to act with you. You only need them to not act, which they can be relied on to do more often than not. (In fact, I believe you don't even need all 535 of them to not act, only some of them can take the action of "no action" and you can do what you…

What we have learned is that you only need the Senate Majority Leader to refuse to act. It turns out that is the crucial weakness in the US government with no checks and balances on it. And, of course, isn't in the US Constitution.

Re: The Pentagon has ordered Stars and Stripes to shut down

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post #28
post #9

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Not with you on that one. Soldiers and their families are, were rather, represented in print. Not any more. What's that worth?

It was a naked propaganda rag. I have no idea why people care about this.

You can look back and see where public sentiment may have been skewed to support a mission.

Now you can't.

Re: The Pentagon has ordered Stars and Stripes to shut down

#165

"Stars and Stripes embodies that most American of values: the right to speak truth to power." Which is the last the thing current administration wants anyone to be able to do.

Trump just tweeted that he won't let this happen. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/13019688734875648...

"let" is not accurate word choice, for mukrtiple reasons.

Re: The Pentagon has ordered Stars and Stripes to shut down

#166
post #125

The link is the usual... stuff, so it's obvious why I cannot treat seriously any words of this "opinion contributor". So I don't have anything better than to ask HN: for those unaware of the situation, what can be considered the real reason to shut down this newspaper? It seems like unusual thing to do, and considering the circumstances will surely cause some discontent (and, what's more importantly, if I'm not mista…

It seems to be related to a recent poll of US troops on their preferred presidential candidate. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/08... It seems Donny is trying to take out his frustration with lackluster polling on Star and Stripes , despite that not having been the publication that conducted the poll. It is a more widely read US armed forces publication, though. To note on the poll, officers…

The Republicans and the Administration are pissed because they ordered the military to break the black lives matters protests and the army told them to get stuffed. So they are throwing a tantrum because they always assumed they'd have the army to back them up and it turns out they don't.

Re: The Pentagon has ordered Stars and Stripes to shut down

#167
post #91

One thing I've always wondered about when it comes to the temporary nature of US presidential terms and their respective administrations - why does it seem like it's so much easier to dismantle things than to create them in the first place? Especially for things that took a substantial amount of time and effort to build, shouldn't we require much more scrutiny before considering an action that effectively dismantles/…

> why does it seem like it's so much easier to dismantle things than to create them in the first place? it's because it's incredibly difficult to get anything passed, the US legislative system has too many checks and balances. Every "check and balance" is another group that has to reach consensus for a proposed action and another point for an adversarial opponent to grind everything to a halt. I contend that it is be…

It's by design that it's slow. It's so a single term cannot change too much.

I don't hear anyone complaining about how the same system defeated two world wars and gave a lot of people rights they didn't have anywhere else in the world

Re: The Pentagon has ordered Stars and Stripes to shut down

#168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Said the poster who mostly likely never served a day in the military or read one word from S&S. I've done both. More than once, actually. Both the Military Times and S&S suffer from the same bias as MSM. One down, potentially, and one to go in my mind. I also don't think taxpayer money should be going to VOA or PBS or NPR for the very same reasons. And don't think most of the military doesn't feel the same way. Most…

Out of curiosity, do you think that taxpayer money should go towards campaign events for the President?

Taxpayer money is given to campaigns through the presidential public funding program.

Re: The Pentagon has ordered Stars and Stripes to shut down

#170

Trump just tweeted that he won't let this happen. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/13019688734875648...

This should be top by now.

And how did this article get out he was cutting it?

His base is in part military and family's it's not something he would logically do 3 months before an election.

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