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Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by dominotw »

pault wrote: post #158
dominotw wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure but did you change your payroll address? What was the address on your payroll?

Sorry, I replied to one of your other comments but didn't mention it here: no, I used my mom's address. I had all of my mail sent there, mostly lived in monthly rentals, and renewed my tourist visa whenever it was up. When I did go back to the US I stayed with my mom, and I kept most of my stuff there, so you could make a good faith argument that it was my primary residence (in the US). I'm pretty sure the only gray…

Yea i know people who did this undere 'don't ask don't tell' policy. But the parallel comments here are claming that companies in US are setup to do foreign payroll, labor laws which I find really hard to believe.

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by pault »

dominotw wrote: post #161
pault wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, I replied to one of your other comments but didn't mention it here: no, I used my mom's address. I had all of my mail sent there, mostly lived in monthly rentals, and renewed my tourist visa whenever it was up. When I did go back to the US I stayed with my mom, and I kept most of my stuff there, so you could make a good faith argument that it was my primary residence (in the US). I'm pretty sure the only gray…

Yea i know people who did this undere 'don't ask don't tell' policy. But the parallel comments here are claming that companies in US are setup to do foreign payroll, labor laws which I find really hard to believe.

Oh, I see. I do know that some fully remote startups do this. There was a blog post that made the front page here for a well known company outlining which countries their employees could live in and what the salary bands were. I can't remember who it was though. Maybe gitlab?

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by mleonhard »

dylz wrote: post #20
nness wrote: post #16

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I'd imagine the internet just has to be good enough to have video calls and transfer the occasional large file for 90% of people. I think life on a Caribbean island would be enough reason to ditch our usual high bandwidth vices like gaming and streaming for just a year.

Some examples: https://discoverflow.co/barbados/broadband/overview https://discoverflow.co/barbados/mobile/plans/prepaid https://www.digicelgroup.com/bb/en/mobile/plans/postpaid-pla...

Barbadian dollar (BBD) is pegged to the USD. BBD 2.00 = USD 1.00.

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by Nursie »

cromka wrote: post #156
Nursie wrote: post #110

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Yes, I would think so. The US is the only country I know of that demands income taxes from its citizens when they are non-resident. Citizens of most countries would expect to pay local income taxes only when they emigrate.

Although it is important to remember that any tax one would have to pay to US IRS is for the difference between what a foreign country and US would charge, if former charged less. This only applies to countries with which US signed a treaty for the avoidance of double taxation.

Interesting - from this and a couple of other comments I can see my idea that you just had to pay US income tax regardless was over-simplified and wrong.

It's still a little weird to me though, as someone who would expect my own country to relinquish all tax demands if I'm not actually there!

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by jsjohnst »

dominotw wrote: post #125
jsjohnst wrote: post #109

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> anyone know if such an employer actually exists in US? Yes. I’ve personally seen it happen multiple times at different employers, each with unique factors. There are way to many factors at play here to make broad assumptions that no employer does it... - first and foremost, Covid changed everything when it comes to remote salary norms - Duration of move (some employers would be more lenient for 6-12mo vs permanent…

> There are way to many factors at play here to make broad assumptions that no employer does it... Yes you can make broad assumptions that almost no hr, payroll, legal dept of any company is setup to deal with taxes, labor laws ect across hundreds of different countries. Yes exceptions exist. > - it’s important enough to mention again, Covid changed everything. No it didn't. Do you have even a single example of an em…

> Do you have even a single example of an employer thats allowing ppl work longterm from whichever country they please due to covid?

Yes, I do, but I’m not doing your research for you. You’ve been extremely combative and flat rude and incredulous this entire thread, so I’m stopping my participation. If you genuinely are in pursuit of knowledge and not to just pick random fights on the Internet, then I implore you to use a different approach.

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by dominotw »

pault wrote: post #162
dominotw wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea i know people who did this undere 'don't ask don't tell' policy. But the parallel comments here are claming that companies in US are setup to do foreign payroll, labor laws which I find really hard to believe.

Oh, I see. I do know that some fully remote startups do this. There was a blog post that made the front page here for a well known company outlining which countries their employees could live in and what the salary bands were. I can't remember who it was though. Maybe gitlab?

Yea that was gitlab ( there are a couple of others like mozilla ect). But they adjust your salary based on your location, like you mentioned.

claim here was that you continue to get 'cushy US salary' no matter which country and you get your payroll to the home address in that country. That sounds really hard to believe to me.

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by dominotw »

jsjohnst wrote: post #165
dominotw wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are way to many factors at play here to make broad assumptions that no employer does it... Yes you can make broad assumptions that almost no hr, payroll, legal dept of any company is setup to deal with taxes, labor laws ect across hundreds of different countries. Yes exceptions exist. > - it’s important enough to mention again, Covid changed everything. No it didn't. Do you have even a single example of an em…

> Do you have even a single example of an employer thats allowing ppl work longterm from whichever country they please due to covid? Yes, I do, but I’m not doing your research for you. You’ve been extremely combative and flat rude and incredulous this entire thread, so I’m stopping my participation. If you genuinely are in pursuit of knowledge and not to just pick random fights on the Internet, then I implore you to…

Sorry I wasn't trying to be rude, yes I agree that my comment were indeed rude. I apologize to you.

I'll try to be better.

I did do my research but I havent found any company that,

1. Lets you move to any country

2. Adjusts your payroll to that country's address.

3. Doesn't adjust your compensation from what you were getting paid in USA.

I do know of some exceptions where people were allowed to move to a country where they already have a home office. One of my coworkers moved to Dublin and my company had a home office in Ireland. Some of my coworkers are also stuck in countries like India due to covid and HR allows them to work from there for now. But it is not any sort of company policy to let ppl work from a random country forever while maintaining their US salaries.

But the claim here is that you can move to any random country like Barbados.

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by kavrick »

cromka wrote: post #156
Nursie wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I would think so. The US is the only country I know of that demands income taxes from its citizens when they are non-resident. Citizens of most countries would expect to pay local income taxes only when they emigrate.

Although it is important to remember that any tax one would have to pay to US IRS is for the difference between what a foreign country and US would charge, if former charged less. This only applies to countries with which US signed a treaty for the avoidance of double taxation.

I'll note Canada has a similar treaty with the US and this applied to me while working / living there for a number of years.

They wanted to tax me on my "worldwide" income and requested that I pay the difference between what I was making in the US vs. what I would be paying in Canada had I been living there.

It wasn't something I had considered in my planning so good to look into before you go!

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by [deleted] »

brianbreslin wrote: post #70
nextos wrote: post #55

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There are some rumors that indicate the Canary Islands will set up some remote worker deal. It'd be great as they have low tax, great weather and nice infrastructure including really nice Internet.

Are their taxes not the same as rest of Spain?

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